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Re: [rant] Yet Another Frivolous Lawsuit

I think the problem is that just about every current cell phone looks up the caller's number and displays the phone book entry and/or plays a ringtone based on the number. Google's Grand Central does something similar. The "patent" has been so thoroughly diluted that I doubt there is anything left to claim.
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I think the problem is that just about every current cell phone looks up the caller's number and displays the phone book entry and/or plays a ringtone based on the number. Google's Grand Central does something similar. The "patent" has been so thoroughly diluted that I doubt there is anything left to claim.
All depends on what's spelled out in the patent and what specific mechanisms the iPhone is using that the claimant is contesting as infringing that differs from the way others do things, though.

As to Google's Grand Central (isn't that an acquired product that, prior to acquisition, might not have had enough notoriety to attract a patent suit), is it a widely shipping product, yet?
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Re: [rant] Yet Another Frivolous Lawsuit

It's essentially a phone switch controlled by a web app and it is widely available via their "invite" process.
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said by RadioDoc See Profile :

I think the problem is that just about every current cell phone looks up the caller's number and displays the phone book entry and/or plays a ringtone based on the number. Google's Grand Central does something similar. The "patent" has been so thoroughly diluted that I doubt there is anything left to claim.
Not exactly. The original article was a bit lacking on specifics. This one has a bit more.

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...many of the world's wireless phone makers have licensed the patent, including the three biggest - Motorola Inc., Samsung Group, and Nokia Corp. In addition, Figa sued Hong Kong electronics firm VTech Technology Ltd. over the patent in 2006; VTech and Figa reached a settlement last month.

"Apple was contacted about a license, but the parties were not able to agree on acceptable terms," Tittemore said. She said that Figa sent a letter to Apple chief executive Steve Jobs in May 2007, about a month before the iPhone went on sale, to warn Jobs that the phone might violate the patent. "He informed Mr. Jobs that the iPhone very likely infringed, and he provided him with the patent number," said Tittemore.
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The patent is garbage to begin with, and never should have been issued. Number is 4,924,496
How many phones were you using with integrated caller ID and address book lookup in 1988?
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In that case, Apple may have stepped in it.
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It doesn't matter how many phones he was using, it's whether anyone had thought of the capability earlier or even deployed it (as in prior art).

Reverse number lookup technology has been in use in Chicago (by the Chicago PD and FD) since the mid 70's and is the same thing. Their system matched incoming numbers to names and addresses through an electronic reverse lookup system and displayed the results. Chicago is where E911 started.

Seems to me that Figa's caller ID reverse look up is invalid by prior art. Electronic reverse lookup from incoming caller's number physically existed for over a decade prior to Figa's patent and were obviously developed years or more prior to that. The fact that he figured to put it in a smaller box doesn't change it. Figs's idea is just "personal E911".
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