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isee

@swbell.net

reply to dru

Re: when was the last increase?

said by dru:

This is actually the first increase in loop charges to ISPs, and my company has been doing this for 10 years.
so this is the first price increase in more than 10 years, doesn't seem that unfair to me. Considering fuel/copper/healthcare costs and overall cost of doing business increases over the last decade. I'm shocked this is the first increase.

said by dru:

As for copper, 90% or more of DSL uses the stuff that was hung or buried decades ago. And because this increase pertains to "line share" the copper loops are irrelevant since they share the local telephone service.
They still have to replace copper all the time. Those costs have quadrupled. It costs more just to have it in stock. Old plant goes bad, not all new construction is fiber.


ispjournalist

@pacbell.net

Standard telco lies:

1) "We have not increased prices"

But costs have fallen and prices have not

2) "We need to get a return on our investment"

Smaller companies serve small customers better, and the telco charges ISPs _more_ than the retail rate. Either a) the telco is losing money on retail or b) they're squeezing the ISPs for more money than the telco can get out of the service -- I suggest b

3) "innovation"

That happens in Japan and France and in the richest suburbs where FIOS is being installed

4) "cost of infrastructure"

Bell infrastructure was built to gold plate the costs because the costs determined the revenues. Look around you -- every telco switching center is on prime real estate (tho some is in the dying center of town near the factories that were the town's life when the switching center was built).

Here in NYC, ONE BUILDING sold for $500 million

»www.nytimes.com/2006/02/22/reale···f=slogin


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