Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
 ·Colbanet
| reply to avernar
Re: What is: ADSL High Speed Internet (Non-PPPOE) ?
It doesn't stop you from using multilink PPP, strictly speaking. The most effective solution would be to rent a dedicated server in Toronto and create PPP sesssions over each of the connections. The additional latency would be minimal (ideally, less than a millisecond added). Or, of course, there are other solutions to accomplish the same thing. |
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otheroptions3
join:2007-01-17
| reply to TwentyMBPS
lets go back a bit when things were bctel...MMG for those of you that remember...it was non pppoe and a residential service. fixed ip and gateway and away you went  those things changed when bell and telus split things up and bctel went way. wsa fun while it lasted
no pppoe software..at the time no win xp so lots of issues existed with enternet300 software.
also out west over uniserve lines you connect via your mac address no username or password |
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erik123
@telus.net
| > also out west over uniserve lines you connect via your mac address no username or password
My Uniserve ADSL line in the office in BC is PPPoE. My router manages the login and maintains a permanent connection. I don't notice any difference in performance or connectivity compared to my Telus ADSL line at home. |
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pawelluk
join:2008-02-24 | reply to TwentyMBPS
Is there any decrease in latency on a non-pppoe connection? It would be nice to have lower latency on an adsl, especially when connect from work to home. Any suggestions? |
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jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX
| HSA theoretically has a decrease in latency. There is no encapsulation/extraction of the TCPIP packet, and less processing by Bell. But that decrease may not be noticeable.
If HSA totally bypasses the Ellayoya satanic boxes, that would also provide for slightly lower latency, but again, might not be noticeable.
The sad thing is that if we all switch to HSA to escape Bell's satanic crippling of GAS, Bell will get more revenus from us, at no extra cost to Bell. |
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Puggy1
join:2005-02-20
Canada | reply to TwentyMBPS
So for someone in BC currently with Telus... If I switched to TekSavvy, would I be on PPPoE, non-PPPoE, or would I be given the option? |
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Turbinator
join:2007-10-14
Mississauga, ON | reply to TwentyMBPS
Is non-ppoe throttled? |
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beamer69
join:2007-05-10
Burnaby, BC
| reply to Puggy1
said by Puggy1  :So for someone in BC currently with Telus... If I switched to TekSavvy, would I be on PPPoE, non-PPPoE, or would I be given the option? You will be on PPPoE and it works fine  I didn't notice any difference once it was setup.
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the cerberus
join:2007-10-16
Richmond Hill, ON
3 edits | reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz :It doesn't stop you from using multilink PPP, strictly speaking. The most effective solution would be to rent a dedicated server in Toronto and create PPP sesssions over each of the connections. The additional latency would be minimal (ideally, less than a millisecond added). Or, of course, there are other solutions to accomplish the same thing. What? I don't understand... What is the point of renting a server to use PPP when you can run PPPoE from your house with no latency added for cheaper, to just go back to PPP makes little sense, it would defeat the purpose of having a non-PPP line to begin with!
Strictly speaking everyone missed the point, non PPPoE ADSL removes Bell's BAS control over your line, I would assume no throttling would be able to be applied to your line.
Question: If HSA hardly improves anything at all why does it cost so much more? Where is the money justified? Or is it Bell who controls the cost of this and thus it is just unjustified like a lot of things Bell does. I mean adding and maintaining servers locally doesn't even make much sense, wouldn't cost more money to run the local BAS's for PPPoE? |
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