Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
 ·Verizon FIOS
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Re: uhh wtf mate!
You damage the network neutrality argument.
ISP's can ABSOLUTELY manage their network by limiting heavy users. A consumer grade network should be no different. If anything, if Comcast can't manage their network properly, maybe they do have too much market share, and SHOULD be limited.
If a Business wants to upload 24/7 they get a business account, and no problem.
Network neutrality is about treating every protocol the same, from every provider.
Sandvine doesn't do at all what he says, it completely disables a portion of protocol, weather it be abusive or not. |
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Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
1 edit | reply to Skippy25
said by Skippy25  :Every customer wouldn't upload at that speed and for the most part those that do will not do it for an extended amount of time ... I have 100mb to the desktop. If there is network slow down I put a sniffer on it and find the user that is "abusing" it. That individual is dealt with and if they don't adhere to my "advice" I get their performance manager involved. Skippy - Your model works great if P2P didn't exist. What you are talking about of course is a network you manage at work. A consumer grade network is a *very different* beast and it should NOT have admins telling customers what they can/can't do on the network. Network neutrality.
Think about your upstream provider - say your business *wanted* to use your 100mbps upload 24/7 to host a legal bittorrent file your business created. Should your ISP cut you off and tell you NO?
P2P (ie bittorrent) can fill 100mbps up on a popular file if it is configured in a fashion to do so.
Comcast currently uses their sandvine application to do essentially what you describe, but on an automatic basis. Thus transfer caps and throttling again rear their ugly head.
BT is an amazing protocol, because for the very first time users - even (and perhaps especially) uneducated ones - can do exactly exactly what you state they won't: "upload at that speed (100mbps) ... for an extended amount of time" |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
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Every customer wouldn't upload at that speed and for the most part those that do will not do it for an extended amount of time because the general internet to the general user is a very lopsided road on the download side.
The network would handle what it can handle and then the providers should deal with user's individually that are saturating the network. Just as they should now. Just as I do on the network I manage. I have 100mb to the desktop. If there is network slow down I put a sniffer on it and find the user that is "abusing" it. That individual is dealt with and if they don't adhere to my "advice" I get their performance manager involved. |
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