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TK Junk Mail
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February 29th, @05:12PM

 The same court will probably just shoot it down again

Comcast will likely win, but it could take a year or two before it is heard and ruled on. By then Martin will have moved on from the FCC to his run for office in North Carolina. In the meantime he can claim how consumer friendly he was by sticking it to a cable company. A no lose decision for him. That is how politics is played in the big leagues.
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Raptor
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I've determined that the critical source of global warming/climate change is in fact politicians/high ranking officials and their constant output of hot air.


Skeedatl
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With that logic, Brian Roberts is likely responsible for temps on Venus.


danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
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reply to TK Junk Mail
You want more than 30%? Fine. You cannot filter, restrict, cap or otherwise interfere with the internet traffic your customers use.

You will carry all local affiliates HD broadcasts

You will offer a basic rate tier for no more than 20$

You will not have ETF's

You will not charge customers for using their own cable modems or other hardware which essentially eliminates any discount over renting same hardware from comcast.

You will allow customer to use any STB/DVR of their choice and rent cable cards for no more than 3$ a month for the next 5 years

You will role out DOCSIS 3.0 to 100% of your markets.

You will charge 100% of markets the exact same price nation wide

Yeah....like ANY of that will happen....

reelbigfish

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February 29th, @05:34PM

Why would you want that to happen? Then there would be no competition, prices would skyrocket, and then we'd be really screwed. I'm all for the open market. If people don't like Comcast, vote with your feet. Most people have alternatives, and if you don't like them, move. You're the one choosing to live in that area.

EDIT: Also, I see you subscribe to FIOS. Why aren't you complaining that Verizon do the same? Here in MA, Verizon has stopped deploying FIOS and has no plans to ever roll it out in the city. It just isn't profitable. That is why Comcast gets my TV/Internet/Phone dollar.


en102
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reply to TK Junk Mail
I expect some 'concessions' - i.e. Comcast 'can' have more than 30% 'if' they

a) offer a la carte programming
b) stop filtering/traffic shaping
c) offer indie access to their network (yeah, like that will happen)
d) offer better pricing
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gar187er
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reply to danclan
quote:
You want more than 30%? Fine. You cannot filter, restrict, cap or otherwise interfere with the internet traffic your customers use.
blah blah blah

quote:
You will carry all local affiliates HD broadcasts
almost all areas do already

quote:
You will offer a basic rate tier for no more than 20$
its called limited service....where have you been!??!!?

quote:
You will not charge customers for using their own cable modems or other hardware which essentially eliminates any discount over renting same hardware from comcast.
they dont charge for CPE....go buy your modem, comcast doesnt care or charge....

quote:
You will allow customer to use any STB/DVR of their choice and rent cable cards for no more than 3$ a month for the next 5 years
this was the point of putting CC's in STB's and dvrs....again, where have you been??

quote:
You will role out DOCSIS 3.0 to 100% of your markets.
in time yes, its not an instant change over

quote:
You will charge 100% of markets the exact same price nation wide
impossible, standards of living differ.....

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
reply to en102
What does any of this have to do with pay TV market share? Nothing. There is no reason that Comcast (or any pay TV provider) should be capped at 30% when viable pay TV competition exists nationwide.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
reply to danclan
Half of your "wants" have nothing to do with pay TV, and the other half are already solved, or soon will be...besides, they aren't relevant to market share.


en102
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reply to openbox9
True - they can open up the market beyond 30%, also, they'll have to remove their traffic shaping, as some may want to watch TV over the Internet. Competition of TV over broadband will become a reality.
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openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
Once gain, traffic shaping of your HSI connection has nothing to do with pay TV. Besides, you're still allowed to watch content over your HSI connection if you so desire.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
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Since I don't have HSI, you're right.
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BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to Skeedatl
said by Skeedatl See Profile :

With that logic, Brian Roberts is likely responsible for temps on Venus.
According to the neo-cons CO2 doesn't cause warmer temps. It's a myth.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
reply to en102
So what's your concern again?

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to reelbigfish
said by reelbigfish See Profile :

Why would you want that to happen? Then there would be no competition,
Where is the competition now? As far as I know less than 1% of the people live in areas where 2 or more cable companies compete with each other.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to gar187er
said by gar187er See Profile :

quote:
You will carry all local affiliates HD broadcasts
almost all areas do already
This isn't horseshoes. Charter only has 5 of 7 locals in my area not counting CW.

quote:
You will charge 100% of markets the exact same price nation wide
impossible, standards of living differ.....
Then how can Dish Network, DirectTv and FiOS do it?


Skeedatl
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reply to BF69
said by BF69 See Profile :

said by Skeedatl See Profile :

With that logic, Brian Roberts is likely responsible for temps on Venus.
According to the neo-cons CO2 doesn't cause warmer temps. It's a myth.
Given that manmade CO2 is only a trace amount of the actual greenhouse gases I would agree.

If someone wants to stop global warming they'll have to destroy the Sun.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
reply to BF69
Don't forget two nationwide, major sat TV providers when you're talking about pay TV.


Sterling
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February 29th, @10:34PM

reply to BF69
said by BF69 See Profile :

quote:
You will charge 100% of markets the exact same price nation wide
impossible, standards of living differ.....
Then how can Dish Network, DirectTv and FiOS do it?
Top reasons that make it difficult, is that Comcast has contractual agreements with every single city, township or village they provide service in, known as a franchise agreement, that must be paid out and varies.

They also have to rent the real estate that they cables on the poles are using, and agreements with land owners whose yards the headends/cmts are kept(similar to the dslams that at&t has, only they don't explode).

The expense of maintaining, expanding, upgrading and replacing equipment and fiber optics. As far as I know most of the call centers are regional, instead of cherry picked for there lowest cost of living, meaning if you are calling from Pittsburgh, theres at this moment a 90% chance you will get someone from Pittsburgh, I can't speak for what the others areas are doing, only that this area is cutting it's dependence on outsourcing.

plus the fact that what comcast pays for a channel is going to be more or less then what another company is paying

The company as a whole, like most large companies have there issues to be worked out.

james1

join:2001-02-26
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reply to Skeedatl
... or Al Gore
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