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danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
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Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

You want more than 30%? Fine. You cannot filter, restrict, cap or otherwise interfere with the internet traffic your customers use.

You will carry all local affiliates HD broadcasts

You will offer a basic rate tier for no more than 20$

You will not have ETF's

You will not charge customers for using their own cable modems or other hardware which essentially eliminates any discount over renting same hardware from comcast.

You will allow customer to use any STB/DVR of their choice and rent cable cards for no more than 3$ a month for the next 5 years

You will role out DOCSIS 3.0 to 100% of your markets.

You will charge 100% of markets the exact same price nation wide

Yeah....like ANY of that will happen....
reelbigfish

join:2002-06-06
Boston, MA
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Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

Why would you want that to happen? Then there would be no competition, prices would skyrocket, and then we'd be really screwed. I'm all for the open market. If people don't like Comcast, vote with your feet. Most people have alternatives, and if you don't like them, move. You're the one choosing to live in that area.

EDIT: Also, I see you subscribe to FIOS. Why aren't you complaining that Verizon do the same? Here in MA, Verizon has stopped deploying FIOS and has no plans to ever roll it out in the city. It just isn't profitable. That is why Comcast gets my TV/Internet/Phone dollar.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

said by reelbigfish See Profile :

Why would you want that to happen? Then there would be no competition,
Where is the competition now? As far as I know less than 1% of the people live in areas where 2 or more cable companies compete with each other.
openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA

Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

Don't forget two nationwide, major sat TV providers when you're talking about pay TV.
reelbigfish

join:2002-06-06
Boston, MA

Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

I did mean the two major satellite providers, but if you don't like your cable company, complain to your local franchise. Many communities gave up the right to let cable companies compete in their franchise agreements.

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

said by reelbigfish See Profile :

I did mean the two major satellite providers, but if you don't like your cable company, complain to your local franchise. Many communities gave up the right to let cable companies compete in their franchise agreements.
But those 2 satellite companies have nothing to do with Comcast and the 30% rule. You said Comcast getting more than 30% decreases competition, but that doesn't effect whether Dish or Direct can offer you service. If Comcast had 100% of the cable market how does that decrease competition between cable and the satellite companies? It doesn't. In the end most people would still have the choice between cable and satellite.
openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA

Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

Bingo. Even if Comcast owned 100% of the coax connecting homes in this country, they still have at least two strong competitors in the pay TV market.
thevorpal

join:2007-11-16
Alexandria, VA

Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

The Pay TV market is much less of an issue now because of the increased competition. Internet TV, Satellite, have provided excellent alternatives.

My concern is for internet access, which in my area is still a 1 person show.
openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA

Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

This is about pay TV. Internet access and competition is a separate discussion.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
Well if you consider satellite, well DSLReports needs to close, its not needed anymore. 100% of the USA has Universal Broadband.
openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA

Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

You do realize this about pay TV, right? Not everything discussed around this forum is about your connection to the internet.

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said by BF69 See Profile :

said by reelbigfish See Profile :

Why would you want that to happen? Then there would be no competition,
Where is the competition now? As far as I know less than 1% of the people live in areas where 2 or more cable companies compete with each other.
That's because Comcast owns almost the majority of it. Why would they compete with themselves?
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gar187er
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join:2006-06-24
Dover, DE

quote:
You want more than 30%? Fine. You cannot filter, restrict, cap or otherwise interfere with the internet traffic your customers use.
blah blah blah

quote:
You will carry all local affiliates HD broadcasts
almost all areas do already

quote:
You will offer a basic rate tier for no more than 20$
its called limited service....where have you been!??!!?

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You will not charge customers for using their own cable modems or other hardware which essentially eliminates any discount over renting same hardware from comcast.
they dont charge for CPE....go buy your modem, comcast doesnt care or charge....

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You will allow customer to use any STB/DVR of their choice and rent cable cards for no more than 3$ a month for the next 5 years
this was the point of putting CC's in STB's and dvrs....again, where have you been??

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You will role out DOCSIS 3.0 to 100% of your markets.
in time yes, its not an instant change over

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You will charge 100% of markets the exact same price nation wide
impossible, standards of living differ.....

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

said by gar187er See Profile :

quote:
You will carry all local affiliates HD broadcasts
almost all areas do already
This isn't horseshoes. Charter only has 5 of 7 locals in my area not counting CW.

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You will charge 100% of markets the exact same price nation wide
impossible, standards of living differ.....
Then how can Dish Network, DirectTv and FiOS do it?

Sterling
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Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

said by BF69 See Profile :

quote:
You will charge 100% of markets the exact same price nation wide
impossible, standards of living differ.....
Then how can Dish Network, DirectTv and FiOS do it?
Top reasons that make it difficult, is that Comcast has contractual agreements with every single city, township or village they provide service in, known as a franchise agreement, that must be paid out and varies.

They also have to rent the real estate that they cables on the poles are using, and agreements with land owners whose yards the headends/cmts are kept(similar to the dslams that at&t has, only they don't explode).

The expense of maintaining, expanding, upgrading and replacing equipment and fiber optics. As far as I know most of the call centers are regional, instead of cherry picked for there lowest cost of living, meaning if you are calling from Pittsburgh, theres at this moment a 90% chance you will get someone from Pittsburgh, I can't speak for what the others areas are doing, only that this area is cutting it's dependence on outsourcing.

plus the fact that what comcast pays for a channel is going to be more or less then what another company is paying

The company as a whole, like most large companies have there issues to be worked out.

james

join:2001-02-26
antarctica

Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

AHA!! SPEECHLESS I SEE!

BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by Sterling See Profile :

Top reasons that make it difficult, is that Comcast has contractual agreements with every single city, township or village they provide service in, known as a franchise agreement, that must be paid out and varies.
So maybe they should SUPPORT statewide franchising instead of fighting it. Wouldn't that make their jobs eaiser and be better able to offer more standard pricing?

As far as I know most of the call centers are regional, instead of cherry picked for there lowest cost of living, meaning if you are calling from Pittsburgh, theres at this moment a 90% chance you will get someone from Pittsburgh, I can't speak for what the others areas are doing, only that this area is cutting it's dependence on outsourcing.
HAHA. Most of Charter's call centers are either in India or Mexico. And I'm NOT being sarcastic. Very rarely do I ever get a person that is not speaking broken english.

plus the fact that what comcast pays for a channel is going to be more or less then what another company is paying
Bull ESPN is NOT going to charge Comcast more per sub for ESPN and ESPN 2 in Chicago than they do in Nashville or wherever.
jhaygood86

join:2005-03-01
Marietta, GA

Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again

Everytime I call Comcast, I always get a native English speaker from somewhere in North America.
openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
Half of your "wants" have nothing to do with pay TV, and the other half are already solved, or soon will be...besides, they aren't relevant to market share.
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