openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to thevorpal
Re: The same court will probably just shoot it down again
This is about pay TV. Internet access and competition is a separate discussion. |
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thevorpal
join:2007-11-16
Alexandria, VA | reply to openbox9
The Pay TV market is much less of an issue now because of the increased competition. Internet TV, Satellite, have provided excellent alternatives.
My concern is for internet access, which in my area is still a 1 person show. |
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said by reelbigfish  :reelbigfish
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jhaygood86
join:2005-03-01
Marietta, GA | reply to BF69
Everytime I call Comcast, I always get a native English speaker from somewhere in North America. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to patcat88
You do realize this about pay TV, right? Not everything discussed around this forum is about your connection to the internet. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to BF69
Bingo. Even if Comcast owned 100% of the coax connecting homes in this country, they still have at least two strong competitors in the pay TV market. |
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cork1958
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join:2000-02-26
Fruitport, MI
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said by BF69 :said by reelbigfish :Why would you want that to happen? Then there would be no competition, Where is the competition now? As far as I know less than 1% of the people live in areas where 2 or more cable companies compete with each other. That's because Comcast owns almost the majority of it. Why would they compete with themselves?
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by Sterling :Top reasons that make it difficult, is that Comcast has contractual agreements with every single city, township or village they provide service in, known as a franchise agreement, that must be paid out and varies. So maybe they should SUPPORT statewide franchising instead of fighting it. Wouldn't that make their jobs eaiser and be better able to offer more standard pricing?
As far as I know most of the call centers are regional, instead of cherry picked for there lowest cost of living, meaning if you are calling from Pittsburgh, theres at this moment a 90% chance you will get someone from Pittsburgh, I can't speak for what the others areas are doing, only that this area is cutting it's dependence on outsourcing. HAHA. Most of Charter's call centers are either in India or Mexico. And I'm NOT being sarcastic. Very rarely do I ever get a person that is not speaking broken english.
plus the fact that what comcast pays for a channel is going to be more or less then what another company is paying Bull ESPN is NOT going to charge Comcast more per sub for ESPN and ESPN 2 in Chicago than they do in Nashville or wherever. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by reelbigfish :I did mean the two major satellite providers, but if you don't like your cable company, complain to your local franchise. Many communities gave up the right to let cable companies compete in their franchise agreements. But those 2 satellite companies have nothing to do with Comcast and the 30% rule. You said Comcast getting more than 30% decreases competition, but that doesn't effect whether Dish or Direct can offer you service. If Comcast had 100% of the cable market how does that decrease competition between cable and the satellite companies? It doesn't. In the end most people would still have the choice between cable and satellite. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | reply to openbox9
Well if you consider satellite, well DSLReports needs to close, its not needed anymore. 100% of the USA has Universal Broadband. |
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join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA | reply to reelbigfish
My cable company is not important enough for me to actually move, I prefer changing them.
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reelbigfish
join:2002-06-06
Boston, MA | reply to openbox9
I did mean the two major satellite providers, but if you don't like your cable company, complain to your local franchise. Many communities gave up the right to let cable companies compete in their franchise agreements. |
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica | reply to Sterling
AHA!! SPEECHLESS I SEE! |
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Sterling
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join:2003-05-30
Pittsburgh, PA
1 edit | reply to BF69
said by BF69 : quote:
You will charge 100% of markets the exact same price nation wide
impossible, standards of living differ..... Then how can Dish Network, DirectTv and FiOS do it? Top reasons that make it difficult, is that Comcast has contractual agreements with every single city, township or village they provide service in, known as a franchise agreement, that must be paid out and varies.
They also have to rent the real estate that they cables on the poles are using, and agreements with land owners whose yards the headends/cmts are kept(similar to the dslams that at&t has, only they don't explode).
The expense of maintaining, expanding, upgrading and replacing equipment and fiber optics. As far as I know most of the call centers are regional, instead of cherry picked for there lowest cost of living, meaning if you are calling from Pittsburgh, theres at this moment a 90% chance you will get someone from Pittsburgh, I can't speak for what the others areas are doing, only that this area is cutting it's dependence on outsourcing.
plus the fact that what comcast pays for a channel is going to be more or less then what another company is paying
The company as a whole, like most large companies have there issues to be worked out. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to BF69
Don't forget two nationwide, major sat TV providers when you're talking about pay TV. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by gar187er : quote:
You will carry all local affiliates HD broadcasts
almost all areas do already This isn't horseshoes. Charter only has 5 of 7 locals in my area not counting CW.
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You will charge 100% of markets the exact same price nation wide
impossible, standards of living differ..... Then how can Dish Network, DirectTv and FiOS do it? |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to reelbigfish
said by reelbigfish :Why would you want that to happen? Then there would be no competition, Where is the competition now? As far as I know less than 1% of the people live in areas where 2 or more cable companies compete with each other. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to danclan
Half of your "wants" have nothing to do with pay TV, and the other half are already solved, or soon will be...besides, they aren't relevant to market share. |
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gar187er
Premium Alcoholic
join:2006-06-24
Dover, DE
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quote:
You want more than 30%? Fine. You cannot filter, restrict, cap or otherwise interfere with the internet traffic your customers use.
blah blah blah
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You will carry all local affiliates HD broadcasts
almost all areas do already
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You will offer a basic rate tier for no more than 20$
its called limited service....where have you been!??!!?
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You will not charge customers for using their own cable modems or other hardware which essentially eliminates any discount over renting same hardware from comcast.
they dont charge for CPE....go buy your modem, comcast doesnt care or charge....
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You will allow customer to use any STB/DVR of their choice and rent cable cards for no more than 3$ a month for the next 5 years
this was the point of putting CC's in STB's and dvrs....again, where have you been??
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You will role out DOCSIS 3.0 to 100% of your markets.
in time yes, its not an instant change over
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You will charge 100% of markets the exact same price nation wide
impossible, standards of living differ..... |
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reelbigfish
join:2002-06-06
Boston, MA
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1 edit | reply to danclan
Why would you want that to happen? Then there would be no competition, prices would skyrocket, and then we'd be really screwed. I'm all for the open market. If people don't like Comcast, vote with your feet. Most people have alternatives, and if you don't like them, move. You're the one choosing to live in that area.
EDIT: Also, I see you subscribe to FIOS. Why aren't you complaining that Verizon do the same? Here in MA, Verizon has stopped deploying FIOS and has no plans to ever roll it out in the city. It just isn't profitable. That is why Comcast gets my TV/Internet/Phone dollar. |
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