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nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast

Re: the real reason

I know you like to have the last word, so here is one more thing to respond to, I'm done.

I am positive you would not get accurate information by just calling comcast for every address in a location and asking if they have service. Maybe I will try it sometime and see if I can get a comcast rep to stay on the line thru 100,000 address requests. It's simply insane to suggest the information be obtained this way. You disagree, fine. we agree to disagree.

I would like to see the U.S. have better broadband, because I would like higher speeds at lower prices like most of the developed world has. I also think it's imperative to the economic well being and advancement of the U.S. to have broadband equivalent to the world's best - that's where we used to be and that's where I would like us to be again. It's clear from your statements this is of no concern whatsoever to you as long as you have yours.

It's obvious that your income is high enough that you don't care about price and you also aren't particularly concerned about speed. Fair enough. You're not obligated to look any further than your own concerns or needs.

One last thing: how do you know most populated parts of the USA have access to good (as in 3Mbps or better, none of this 200k crap) broadband speeds? The data the FCC reports has no relation to reality and the incumbents won't provide it - did you call and inquire for each of tens of millions of addresses?

SuperJoker

join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA
·Verizon Online DSL
·Verizon west (ex G..

Re: the real reason

said by nasadude See Profile :

I know you like to have the last word, so here is one more thing to respond to, I'm done.

I am positive you would not get accurate information by just calling comcast for every address in a location and asking if they have service. Maybe I will try it sometime and see if I can get a comcast rep to stay on the line through 100,000 address requests. It's simply insane to suggest the information be obtained this way. You disagree, fine. we agree to disagree.

I would like to see the U.S. have better broadband, because I would like higher speeds at lower prices like most of the developed world has. I also think it's imperative to the economic well being and advancement of the U.S. to have broadband equivalent to the world's best - that's where we used to be and that's where I would like us to be again. It's clear from your statements this is of no concern whatsoever to you as long as you have yours.

It's obvious that your income is high enough that you don't care about price and you also aren't particularly concerned about speed. Fair enough. You're not obligated to look any further than your own concerns or needs.

One last thing: how do you know most populated parts of the USA have access to good (as in 3Mbps or better, none of this 200k crap) broadband speeds? The data the FCC reports has no relation to reality and the incumbents won't provide it - did you call and inquire for each of tens of millions of addresses?
Good point nasadude, If one were to ask a telephone company If a particular address is within range of DSL service, All they will say frequently is "We don't know as We need a phone number to figure that out with", So with DSL It's potluck, your neighbor may have DSL, But that will never guarantee that Your address will ever have It. And Fios, Well It should be easy to determine once It's in an area as It covers an area like Cable does You'd think, Deregulation to Cable and the Telecoms is a good thing while It's a bad thing to the US consumer, As It's a Good thing to them as then they can do whatever the CEO and Board of Directors wants to do. Verizon would sell off the Rural area I live in, But they can't as this area links Verizon on the west Coast to Texas and parts of Verizon beyond Texas, So we're safe(No Fairpoint West here), Of course that doesn't mean they'll ever install Fios out here as the only thing they've done lately is to increase DSL speeds to their customers that are within 9000' of the CO and Yes I'm getting 6M speeds on the download, No change on the upload speed though as It's stuck at 768K just like It was at 3M speeds, So It's not quite as good as Fios in that respect. We do have TWC nearby of course, But I'd pass on their email as I've had problems with people receiving emails sent from the rr.com domain as some block the rr.com domain due to spam. I'd also pass on their phone as I like Verizons phone service better and for TV, I just happen to like Dish Network better, But that's the competition around here and My personal preference too, Some are good at one thing and others aren't, Cable may be good with TV and internet(If internet doesn't interfere with Your TV that is), But I don't like Cable TVs constant raising of the bar on prices.
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

Re: the real reason

said by SuperJoker See Profile :

If one were to ask a telephone company If a particular address is within range of DSL service, All they will say frequently is "We don't know as We need a phone number to figure that out with", So with DSL It's potluck, your neighbor may have DSL, But that will never guarantee that Your address will ever have It.
Completely and totally wrong.

I will post the links here once more:

FIOS lookup by address: »www22.verizon.com/fiosforhome/ch···ntry.asp

Verizon DSL lookup by address: »www22.verizon.com/content/consum···ress.htm

AT&T DSL lookup by address:
»https://swot.sbc.com/swot/canIOrderOnlin···ocessDSL

QWest DSL lookup by address:
»www.qwest.com/residential/intern···ual.html

It appears the assertion I made in my original post is correct. The information is there if you want it.

Personally, I feel my time is too valuable to spend on entering every possible address into these websites. However, for those of you who feel that we must absolutely have such information, have at it.
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