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patcat88

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Re: Planned Google medical records svc raises privacy concerns

The privacy laws, there are plenty of exceptions, all your insurance companies, their administrator contractors, networks operators (PPO networks, etc), and processing contractors have 100% access to your records. Then drug makers have access to your records to see if you became sick, research firms (commercial and educational) get anonymized access to your records. All the govt agencies (DEA/FDA) get to look at your records to see if you've getting too much Vicodin. Any prosecutor can pull your records to have a wichhunt to find something negative to tell a jury, even if the case isn't about your medical care.

The only privacy you have is I can't pay $25 and get your records online.

patcat88

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Remember alot of computer users do not understand the concept of folders, how to make them, or that there is a hierarchy. "Local Disk C:" is only for geeks to touch. Its time for computer licenses, just like for cars.


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Try searches like "Bank info" and "Passwords" and "PIN Numbers" and so on and be amazed. And shocked.


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said by Jeffrey See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

"Among start-ups active in the field are Revolution Health, a company backed by former AOL Chairman Steve Case."

That does not make me feel secure.

Since no one can guarantee me that a security breach is impossible, I wouldn't rush to put my medical history online.

That being said, load up your favorite P2P application, and search for "health records" and I'm sure someone has unknowingly shared some health information in their My Documents folder.
Well at least Steve Case has experience that is relevant. Once you are diagnosed with something your online profile could notify you immediately - a-la:
"You've Got Leprosy"
or
"You've Got Herpes"
or You've got Renal Failure"
Just like the great job he did running AOL....


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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

And until court cases determine how easy or hard it is to get that info subpoenaed, there are concerns there as well.
I think medical records are already highly regulated, mostly due to the HIPAA law that took effect 7-8 years ago. It was intended to standardize forms used by providers and insurers, and encourage electronic processing. Due to concerns over how electronic processing might be abused, privacy requirements were added to the law.

Without knowing what Google is planning to do, it may not be too much different than what WebMD began doing after HIPAA. They became a service provider of automated processing.

Mark


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Fabricated Concern

If we hadn't been told for 7 straight years (without taking a breath) that we need to be terrified for our medical records,
would we even care?

Visit a bingo parlor or a public bus stop enough times, you'll get to know dozens of people's medical histories without even asking.

To jump through the HIPAA hoops is costing billions. What is the damage that HIPAA has saved me from?

I really don't have a concern that one day I might be one of the dozens who had an individual steal a peek at my medical history.

Government and Corporations are the only things that one day might cause me genuine harm from browsing my private records. These measures don't do a thing to slow them down.

The only people stopped by privacy laws are you and I. The same people who cause us real grief in our lives aren't hampered at all.

NV
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someone2

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Re: Planned Google medical records svc raises privacy concerns

said by Jeffrey See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

"Among start-ups active in the field are Revolution Health, a company backed by former AOL Chairman Steve Case."

That does not make me feel secure.

Since no one can guarantee me that a security breach is impossible, I wouldn't rush to put my medical history online.

That being said, load up your favorite P2P application, and search for "health records" and I'm sure someone has unknowingly shared some health information in their My Documents folder.
Someone2

That probably can be said about a P2P search for "Tax" related items as well. It's crazy what some people share (ie, their 'while' HDDs).


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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

"Among start-ups active in the field are Revolution Health, a company backed by former AOL Chairman Steve Case."

That does not make me feel secure.

Since no one can guarantee me that a security breach is impossible, I wouldn't rush to put my medical history online.

That being said, load up your favorite P2P application, and search for "health records" and I'm sure someone has unknowingly shared some health information in their My Documents folder.
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Google Inc has unveiled a plan to help U.S. patients gain control of their medical records and is working with doctors' groups, pharmacies and labs to help them securely share sensitive health data.

The company's long-rumored entry into the highly sensitive field came when Chief Executive Eric Schmidt introduced Google Health at a health-care conference in Florida on Thursday.

Google's biggest rival, Microsoft Corp, has introduced HealthVault, which gives users control over who sees what. Among start-ups active in the field are Revolution Health, a company backed by former AOL Chairman Steve Case.

While medical providers are covered by U.S. privacy laws, there is little in the way of established privacy, security and data usage standards for electronic personal health records.

Google is prepared to resist fishing expeditions by lawyers seeking to subpoena personal medical records stored on Google Health. Last year, it went to court to defeat an effort by the U.S. Justice Department to request some Google search records.

Some privacy advocates were quick to criticize the effort. Howard Simon, executive director of the Florida American Civil Liberties Union, said storing medical records with consumer Web services raises data breach risks. "A breach of security would be catastrophic," Simon said. "It's very, very troublesome."
Given all the hackers out there, concerns over personal medical info out on the internet are legitimate. And until court cases determine how easy or hard it is to get that info subpoenaed, there are concerns there as well.
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