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|   packetscan Premium join:2004-10-19 Bridgeport, CT clubs:
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1 edit | Re: Civil rights groups say bandwidth hogs need managing Yea thats the only thing the tubes are good for TK, stealing music? That's naive even for you.
People simply want what they paid for.
Network management (the way comcast has implemented) is just another way to falsey advertise a service and scam the customer.
Second Standing in as client and spoofing data is not network management, it's hacking. If something/someone is becoming a hog modems allow for QOS, that user can then be limited to help the network manage.
Hopefully ISP over selling will finally come to a end and people will be told ON paper exactly what to expect for the dollar paid.. -- Reach out and Tap someone! | |
|   powerhog Stinkin' up the joint Premium join:2000-12-14 Owasso, OK
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| Afraid I don't understand what bandwith hogs and traffic-shaping have in common.
All traffic should be equal. If the ISP doesn't like the quantity of traffic a customer generates, then that is a customer-specific issue. If it's an un-profitable relationship, then that customer should be denied service. Why penalize everyone or a specific group if they really aren't doing anything wrong?
I'm sure that I'd be considered a bandwith hog by most standards. Yet I've never had any kind of P2P (or similar) client installed on any of my machines. So where does the "shaping" stop? You going to block my VPN connections, my ssh and sftp traffic, my http/s and my e-mail? | |
|  |   TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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1 edit | Re: Civil rights groups say bandwidth hogs need managing said by powerhog :I'm sure that I'd be considered a bandwith hog by most standards. Yet I've never had any kind of P2P (or similar) client installed on any of my machines. So where does the "shaping" stop? You going to block my VPN connections, my ssh and sftp traffic, my http/s and my e-mail? Packet shaping and/or secret caps would not be MY way to combat bandwidth hogs, but Comcast should do what they feels is the best way for their business.
If it was me, I'd charge by the byte after passing some threshold. That is, sell service by "bytes transferred" tiers instead of "speed tiers". Bandwidth hogs would need to be very rich to pay for ridiculous transfer amounts. The size of the tiers would be based on well known methods of optimizing income collected. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
|  |  |   powerhog Stinkin' up the joint Premium join:2000-12-14 Owasso, OK | Re: Civil rights groups say bandwidth hogs need managing So why are you agreeing with these idiots who say that bandwith hogs create a need for P2P (or any traffic) to be throttled? | |
|  |  |   NOCMan Verizon Fios User Premium join:2004-09-30 Flower Mound, TX
| Yeah have you seen what they consider acceptable usage.
Some companies think 2 dollars a meg over a few hundred gigs passed is a reasonable amount.
Billing by the byte is exactly what telco's wanted to do. Instead of charging the content providers they'll just make it where you accept their walled garden approach to the internet IE their AOL or pay up the nose to access something like google, iTunes, etc.
Unlimited means you access what you want. The minute they begin billing by the byte is the minute you cede any reasonable expectation to access what you want.
Like it or not those same music thieves are the reason any of these companies have upgraded any of their facilities. | |
|  Kearnstd Elf Wizard Premium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ
| while controling P2P traffic might be good for profits the problem is without some form of Net Neutrality laws there is nothing to stop an ISP from say throttling back any Multimedia site that doesnt pay them down to 512k.
P2P isnt why ISPs fight over Net Neutrality and traffic shaping, they want ad dollars to be more directed to their own portals and not Google. even though google has the better search page then any portal. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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