zajacz
join:2002-09-21
Calgary, AB
| Siemens se567 - Disable router functions?
I am upgrading to the High Speed 3.0 service and Telus is sending me a Siemens 567 router/modem. I already use a Linksys WRT54GL wireless router (flashed with Tomato firmware) and wish to continue to use this Linksys router as a router. How does one disable all the routing functions of the Siemens so it acts like a modem only? If it can't be done, what are my other options, i.e. what other modem should I swap the Siemens for? |
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siberx4
Bandwidth hog
join:2004-10-19
West Vancouver, BC
| I'm not personally familiar with the Siemens unit so I couldn't tell you how to bridge it (apparently it works half decently and another forum user could outline the procedure) but if you want a device specifically designed for what you're doing then request the Thomson Speedtouch modem, which is a straight purely bridged modem. Telus *usually* will swap them without a problem - and if they say they won't hang up and call back and then they will  |
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aramis
join:2002-11-27 | reply to zajacz
Mine arrived with bridge mode set as default so connect the router and see if it works initially. |
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Betty Woo
join:2007-10-23
Vancouver, BC
| reply to zajacz
I have the same problem and would like some advice or direction on how to do it because the only thing Telus' reps are telling me is to call Siemans directly to bring the gateway back to it's default position.
I did exactly as the first poster and was pretty happy for a while there. The signal from my WRT54GL router was strong and my Nokia N800 Internet Tablet picked it up nicely and never dropped a connection - even after hours and hours of listening to my international radio stations.
Then one day I suddenly couldn't get anything out of my WRT54GL router so I just simply plugged my computer and VOiP into the Siemans, hopped onto the website and set up a secure wireless connection so I could access the Nokia N800.
Except the signal was really bad for something just 12 feet away and it kept dropping out so that it was really hit-n-miss accessing the 'net from the N800 at all and my radio listening ended abruptly a lot a lot a lot.
So now I want to go back and just use the Siemans (since it apparently sucks as a wireless modem) as a pure bridge to see if resetting the router worked or not.
Except now I'm stuck since I guess I burned the bridge mode and I can't figure out how to get it back.
I guess I could wait until I call Siemans but, you know, this process has already taken way too much of my time and if this ever happens again, I'd much rather have a printed out aid (like... a helpful response?  ).
I'm just getting really fed up having to even know all this stuff just to get my international radio stations and internet on my N800 12 feet away from the gateway 
So much so that I'm up for some alternative set-up suggestions (in really simple English) that means dependable, strong wireless to my N800 and a good VOiP QoS.
Suggestions appreciated. |
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Symtex
join:2005-04-06
Verdun, QC
| Word of advise : No rep at TELUS would ever know how to do this as it's an unsupported function.
As far as being able to put in a bridge mode. I am also curious on how to do it. My suggestion would be to ask your modem to be exchange for a speedtouch. |
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Betty Woo
join:2007-10-23
Vancouver, BC
| said by Symtex  :Word of advise : No rep at TELUS would ever know how to do this as it's an unsupported function. As far as being able to put in a bridge mode. I am also curious on how to do it. My suggestion would be to ask your modem to be exchange for a speedtouch. I'm pretty sure I figured it out - there's a factory reset button on the modem's web page that's defaulted to no wireless set-up. I'm assuming that this means a bridge mode.
However, depending on who I just happen to be talking to at Telus, they only support the Seimans modem OR I can get a 2Wire or I get a Thompson or I have to return the Siemans or... .
Except now I've just gotten off the phone with someone who has told me that the person who signed me up for the enhanced service and sent out the Seimans gateway also charged me $105.50, not as some bizarre 3-month deposit on the modem so that the charge would disappear after my third billing cycle (like the last person told me) but charged me for installation and the first month.
Um. Me plugging in the Siemans (that I didn't even want) is not costing me $105.50 - no way.
So *now*, after some discussion, I'm getting a $70 rebate to cover the (non-)installation (the rest was for that month's service), I'm getting a Thompson modem (only) and I can keep the Siemans (for free).
Oi.
What I'm going to do is go out and get a new WRT54GL router (since that seems to have been the cause of this in the first place since it just seemed to stop connecting for no reason) and try it out on both the Telus modems and see how that goes and ship back the least irksome one.
And somehow I still think I'm getting hosed... . |
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siberx4
Bandwidth hog
join:2004-10-19
West Vancouver, BC
| Sounsd like a good choice to me. Sometimes the best way to resolve problems like this is to directly swap and compare hardware side-by-side. If telus is willing to send you the thomson speedtouch free, then by all means give it a shot - I know most users who've taken that unit have had good success with it. |
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Betty Woo
join:2007-10-23
Vancouver, BC
| said by siberx4 :Sounsd like a good choice to me. Sometimes the best way to resolve problems like this is to directly swap and compare hardware side-by-side. If telus is willing to send you the thomson speedtouch free, then by all means give it a shot - I know most users who've taken that unit have had good success with it. Yeah. I've got a VOiP set-up and unless you have a separate router with QoS, the sound quality is hit-'n-miss so I need a router. Think I'll go after a Linksys WRT54GL and use some linux firmware for QoS since I've been quite happy with my completely uneducated opinion that Telus Enhanced does seem faster.
I just found that the wireless capabilities of the Siemans is dismal. My N800 is in the next room (never more than 12 feet away and always with an open door) and the connection status bar is never full. It was strong and full and never dropped a radio station with my Linksys WRT54G sending out signals. With the Siemans - loading web pages is s-l-o-w and when I can manage to get a radio station to work, it lasts less than five minutes.
Let's see what happens with the Thompson... . |
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Betty Woo
join:2007-10-23
Vancouver, BC
| Got my new WRT54GL, downloaded Thibor firmware, everything good to go... except the Siemans 567 gateway just absolutely refuses to acknowledge the router.
I factory defaulted and made absolutely sure there was no wireless capabilities on the Siemans before trying to set it up with the router but, nope, I can't get internet through it, VOiP through it - nothing.
I've been told twice by the Telus technical support people that I don't have to register the MAC address at the OCA site so... what's wrong? I know not.
I'm having a hard time giving Telus the benefit of a doubt that it hasn't had many problems with situations of the Siemans and router problems.
You'll have to excuse me while I stew some more 
God. I really *loathe* Telus sometimes. Let's see what this Smarttouch can do to calm me down - when it arrives in a few days. |
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CR123
join:2006-11-04
Vancouver, BC | So the WRT is not getting an IP address? |
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sleeperz
@telus.net
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I use the Siemens SE567 and I find the Wireless to be very good. Using low power (so it does not to transmit to the whole neighbourhood) it goes through a hardwood floor to another computer with excellent signal strength.
I set the wireless signal to g mode only. Not mixed b/g.
To get into the Siemens SE567 use a brower and "gigaset". |
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Betty Woo
join:2007-10-23
Vancouver, BC
| said by sleeperz :
I use the Siemens SE567 and I find the Wireless to be very good. Using low power (so it does not to transmit to the whole neighbourhood) it goes through a hardwood floor to another computer with excellent signal strength.
I set the wireless signal to g mode only. Not mixed b/g.
To get into the Siemens SE567 use a brower and "gigaset".
It's just... bad. I tried scanning for channels and that meant the power would fluctuate. I tried keeping to one channel and that doesn't always do a lot of good, either.
I'll try setting the wireless signal to 'g' mode only (but the power levels on my airport icon is already fluctuating less than 20 minutes after I switched).
I'm just completely soured on this modem and want it off my system. I shouldn't have to be fiddling around with it (or talking to Telus 'technical help' in the Phillipines who get completely flustered if you get them off their script) for hours on end.
I'll see what happens when the Thompson wired modem gets here. |
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psydfx
join:2002-12-20
Canada
| Just out of curiousity.. did you unplug the Linksys wireless router when you were trying to get the Siemens working?
I came across a case the other day where a customer was constantly dropping their wireless connection and signals kept bouncing up and down. Turned out they have plugged in the router from Telus and hadn't taken out the other wireless router they had previously. Both wireless signals were right next to each other and causing major conflicts with each other, even on different channels. Unplugged the Linksys and problem was solved.
Seems like a rather silly thing to overlook, but it happens to the best of us. |
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Betty Woo
join:2007-10-23
Vancouver, BC
| Oh, yeah. The Linksys is sitting there forelornly, unplugged and unused.
I've given up trying to figure it out. I hit that tipping point before this long weekend and I've been happier periodically cursing it and not touching it beyond the last suggestion of changing it to 'g' mode only.
To me, it's been a decent enough modem but the wireless capabilities suck. I don't want to waste any more time with it. I'll just have it sitting in the backroom, ready to act as an emergency router if the Thompson craps out.
Honestly, about half the anger I have with this modem was how silly it was not being intuitively able to figure out how to revert it easily back to a bridge mode and more than half was finding out that Telus charged me $105.50 at the time the modem was sent out, without my knowledge - even though I specifically told them I didn't want the Siemans at all and if I did need a modem, I wanted the Thompson, then was told by a customer service rep that the $105.50 was some bizarre 'credit' to cover... I'm not sure what... for three months and then it would be dropped and then being told the last time that, actually, I'd been charged an installation fee + a month.
If it hadn't been for 'Karen' (in Canada) swinging some things to calm me down as I rightfully got more and more frustrated, I would have just dumped Telus right then and there and raised a holy stink about this billing/modem problem.
As it stands, if I get a decent Thompson, get to keep the Siemans *and* have that stoopid $105.50 erased from my bill, Telus can stay after my one-year contract is over in two weeks... not that I'm *ever* going to have another contract with them, of course |
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Sleeperz
@telus.net | reply to zajacz
Wireless Access Port
Maybe this might help.
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/···0338/98/ |
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Craig O
@masd.info
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I was in the same boat and banged my head against the wall for several hours this weekend trying to get the SE567 into bridge mode. Here's how you need to do it (at least this worked for me). Keep in mind that the VPI and VCI setting may differ for you ISP, but these setting worked for FrontierNet in Pennsylvania, USA.
[You may want to restore the factory defaults first and reestablish the default PPPoE connection using your login information on the modem.]
1. Attach your computer directly to a LAN port on the modem and log in as administrator to the modem interface.
2. Click on 'ISP Connection'
3. Click Advanced Settings, then click 'Configure the ATM Virtual Circuit'
4. Click Add a New VC
5. Set the VPI to 8 and the VCI to 35 (maybe these are different for your ISP...I guess you could simply mimic the settings that were associated with the default VC). Click Next
6. Select 'RFC-268 4 Bridged' (should be the first selection). Click Next.
7. Enter some name for the connection (i.e. Bridged 2684B(1) 8/35) and click Next then click Finish.
8. Disable the original PPPoE VC by clicking Disable.
9. Then delete all of the VCs except the one you just created.
10. Click ENABLE on the new bridged connection.
11. Click on REBOOT to reboot the modem.
12. You are now bridged.
This worked for me. Your milage may vary. |
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netwerk
Premium
join:2003-02-03
BC | reply to Betty Woo
make sure if you have list of networks that you can connect to on your computer that you have yours at the top and not some default open one that your neighbour may have |
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fastartcee
join:2008-04-15
Kamloops, BC
| reply to Craig O
Craig O,
I, too, am trying to bridge my SE 567. The problem is, when I log in, I do not see the set up page you are referring to.
When I am on the 'Advanced' tab, and click on 'Internet', all I see is "Current Connection: Telus".
I have the Telus 'Level 2 Training' manual (sent to me by a tech at Siemens), and when I look at this set-up page I can see settings for 'Connection Type Selected' (and several other settings), but these settings do not appear for me at all, so I cannot follow your instructions.
Any idea how I get to that settings page??
Thanks,
Art |
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Anonworth
@telus.net | reply to zajacz
You won't have those options because Telus removed them with their custom firmware. |
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fastartcee
join:2008-04-15
Kamloops, BC | Thanks for the reply, Anonworth.
I was coming to this conclusion, and you've confirmed it. I'll send it back and get a Speedtouch. |
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