 Morac
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Riverside, NJ
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The bill requires that VoIP providers offer enhanced 911 services which will automatically transmit location information to 911 operators who take your VoIP emergency call.
Is that even possible for some VoIP providers. For providers like Comcast or Verizon, where the service is limited to one location, this is easy. For something like Vonage, where you can take your "phone" anywhere in the world, how in the world are they supposed to know where you are?
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gbh2o
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| said by Morac:Is that even possible for some VoIP providers. For providers like Comcast or Verizon, where the service is limited to one location, this is easy. For something like Vonage, where you can take your "phone" anywhere in the world, how in the world are they supposed to know where you are? They'll get the GPS information from the individual's government mandated personal anti-terror RFID chip by bluetooth to the ATA in use. |:) |
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| VOIP provides will need to transmit location information just like cell phone companies. The only real solution is to start including GPS functionality into VOIP enabled devices. That way, no matter your location, they will know exactly where you are calling from.
After all, who would ever update their location each time they take a trip to grandma's house for the weekend? |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to Morac
Something tells me VOIP providers will lobby for all ISPs to have a realtime IP-to-street-address database that 911 can query at any time, so all the VOIP provider has to give is the IP and then the IP-to-street address system will return a address to 911. Hey, the information is already always available with a supeona, why not make it real time? cue the privacy people |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to gbh2o
said by gbh2o:said by Morac:Is that even possible for some VoIP providers. For providers like Comcast or Verizon, where the service is limited to one location, this is easy. For something like Vonage, where you can take your "phone" anywhere in the world, how in the world are they supposed to know where you are? They'll get the GPS information from the individual's government mandated personal anti-terror RFID chip by bluetooth to the ATA in use. |:) All the phones will have a barcode scanner and you have to scan the barcode on your forehead before you can make a phone call. |
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said by Morac: quote:
The bill requires that VoIP providers offer enhanced 911 services which will automatically transmit location information to 911 operators who take your VoIP emergency call.
Is that even possible for some VoIP providers. For providers like Comcast or Verizon, where the service is limited to one location, this is easy. For something like Vonage, where you can take your "phone" anywhere in the world, how in the world are they supposed to know where you are? If you weren't home, and you took your adapter with you...why on earth would you be dialing 911 from your TA? Use a local or cell phone. And in most parts of the world, 911 is NOT the emergency number. |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
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1 edit | said by jmallory:If you weren't home, and you took your adapter with you...why on earth would you be dialing 911 from your TA? Use a local or cell phone. And in most parts of the world, 911 is NOT the emergency number. Whether or not it makes sense to dial 9-1-1 from the adapter isn't the issue. The point is that if this bill becomes law and you dial 9-1-1 using a VoIP adapter, it has to, by law, report your location. My point is that that is not physically possible currently.
As for why, sometimes a local phone isn't available and cell phones have their own problems with 9-1-1 and location. |
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 SNTPremium
join:2002-07-17
Satellite Beach, FL
1 edit | My 18 month old son was playing with my phone and somehow dialed 911 and hung up.
Less than 5 minutes later there was a deputy at my door responding to the 911 call. There is no way that my 18 month old could have relayed the address to the operator. The deputy said that they will investigate even if all you do is dial 911 then hang up. So it appears the the location is indeed somehow transmitted.
Forgot to mention that I use Vonage and have since 2003.
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 jester121Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to patcat88
VOIP providers don't have money to lobby. They're too busy defending themselves from patent infringement suits and keeping their networks afloat on a wing and a prayer. |
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That's because vonage is a responsable company and includes your location based info in the call that's made based either on your bill or the information that's provided.
I think the bill was more to hold all voip providers to the same standard, and to make sure that there is the legal backbone to require it. Prior to the bill Vonage wouldn't be required to get all their ducks in a row for the 911 service they provide. They do it now, but they were not required to do so. It was merely a feature. |
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