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Matt
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reply to DaveNJ
Re: Gee, what a surprise

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

Plus the fact that most have cable, and have Docsis2. Fiber isnt as necessary in todays cable environment, yet. Its really only telco using fiber.
I don't believe anyone but Cablevision has deployed DOCSIS 2. The vast majority of cable systems are DOCSIS 1.1.


Nightfall
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said by Matt See Profile :

said by DaveNJ See Profile :

Plus the fact that most have cable, and have Docsis2. Fiber isnt as necessary in todays cable environment, yet. Its really only telco using fiber.
I don't believe anyone but Cablevision has deployed DOCSIS 2. The vast majority of cable systems are DOCSIS 1.1.
Which is fast enough for 98% of the broadband users out there since all most people do is email and web browse.


firephoto
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said by Nightfall See Profile :

Which is fast enough for 98% of the broadband users out there since all most people do is email and web browse.
Oh, that's it. We only need "good enough". Make sure grandma is good with her quest for recipes and seeing small blurry pics of the grandkids.

The land of the free becomes land of the good enough.


Paladin
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reply to Nightfall
When Grandma wants to bump up to d/ling music over iTunes or Linux distros over bittorrent, there becomes the problem.


Nightfall
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said by firephoto See Profile :

said by Nightfall See Profile :

Which is fast enough for 98% of the broadband users out there since all most people do is email and web browse.
Oh, that's it. We only need "good enough". Make sure grandma is good with her quest for recipes and seeing small blurry pics of the grandkids.

The land of the free becomes land of the good enough.
Unfortunately, BBR users are not the majority of internet users out there. Otherwise, fiber would be the only way. Companies are not out to make a product that is more expensive and only caters to 2% of the population.

bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here
reply to firephoto
Do you own the highest ranked car in its class. Or do you drive "good enough"?

Nuts

join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH
reply to Nightfall
The problem is though, that people who cannot get the faster speeds don't waste their time with those items that need higher speed access.


digitalfreak

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reply to Nightfall
Which is fast enough for 98% of the broadband users out there since all most people do is email and web browse.
Woohoo! More made up statistics

neufuse

join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
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reply to Nightfall
When I hear we dont need DOCSIS 3 I just think to myself... ugh... we dont need DOCSIS 3 for speed for a single users... we need DOCSIS 3 for releaving congestion on the node more then anything! DOCSIS 1.1 is maxed out in most nodes in large subscription areas... they are the ones that need 3.0 to get that... I'd rather have 171.52 to 343.04 Mbit down and 122Mbit up on a node then 42.88 and 10.24 Mbit which DOCSIS1.1 has on the entire node... and remember there could be 500 people on a node! keep us at 6-8Mbit just give our node more bandwidth to share!

NormanS
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said by firephoto See Profile :

The land of the free becomes land of the good enough.
I just checked the Verizon FiOS site:
quote:
Blazing speeds start at $42.99/month with choice of our annual package. That price stays the same for one full year and the installation's FREE! More speed. Less money. No contest.

If I wanted to pay $42.95 a month for "blazing" speeds, I wouldn't have to wait for FiOS (won't get here any time soon anyway; we are not served by Verizon). I can get Comcast cable Internet for that price, right now.

In a nation where a large percentage of the population would rather pay $20 a month for Internet at any speed over 768kbps than any price for 100mbps Internet, there is no incentive to build FTTH.

Now, when Verizon starts selling FiOS at $20 (or even $30) per month for their lowest speed tier, then you will probably see demand grow to match the technology.
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Tzale
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said by firephoto See Profile :

said by Nightfall See Profile :

Which is fast enough for 98% of the broadband users out there since all most people do is email and web browse.
Oh, that's it. We only need "good enough". Make sure grandma is good with her quest for recipes and seeing small blurry pics of the grandkids.

The land of the free becomes land of the good enough.
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Since when has "Land of the free," meant "Land of the fastest broadband connectiion?"

-Tzale
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CylonRed
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said by digitalfreak See Profile :

Which is fast enough for 98% of the broadband users out there since all most people do is email and web browse.
Woohoo! More made up statistics
Which, I don't think, is far from the truth - the vast majority of folks browse and download some pics of the kids/grandkids. A minority use it to download movies and downlogs gigs of data a month.

Voip, downloading pics, email, and browsing can easily be done with a non 10 gig internet connection.
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