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Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

reply to pnh102
Re: Non profit networking....

Did you expect them to be way ahead in less then 5 years?

Over time, UTOPIA will prove to be the way EVERY community should go. Futher more, I think UTOPIA will show this nation needs 1 fiber network to every person/business that any provider can provide any service to any customer anywhere in the nation that wants that service.

I strongely disagree that every business that wants to provide service should have to build their own network throughout my neighborhood/city. That is not in the best interest of the consumer's nor the citizens. It is only in the best interest of the companies that continue to try to monopolies the industry.

axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
·Verizon Online DSL

reply to pnh102
I'm always interested in how they are doing, I think its up to taxpayers if they want to go forward with these things. I think they will keep voting for it, even if it costs money in the short term.

Can you provide a link with their financial status that isn't a message-board post?


pnh102
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

reply to jhboricua
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Nice way of trying to twist my response.
Glad you see my point.
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viperlmw
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·Qwest.net

reply to elios
UTOPIA would be considered an overbuild. Other infrastructure already exists (twisted pair copper (Qwest) and coax (whoever the cable provider is)). While it is a municipal build, it's still an overbuild. Anyone can do that if they can figure out how to pay for it.


jhboricua
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reply to pnh102
Nice way of trying to twist my response. I expected nothing less from a shill.


pnh102
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reply to jhboricua
said by jhboricua See Profile :

Northwest Airlines has been bailed twice by MN taxpayers with little to show for it. The Savings & Loans crisis of the 80's and 90's cost the US taxpayers $124.6 billion. The current subprime mortgage crisis IS costing taxpayers everywhere. These are just a few examples.
So you are proving that government bailouts are bad. Why should we allow for more to occur?
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jhboricua
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reply to pnh102
said by pnh102 See Profile :

At least if a private company wasted that kind of cash, the general public would not be on the hook for anything.
Really? I call bs on that statement. Northwest Airlines has been bailed twice by MN taxpayers with little to show for it. The Savings & Loans crisis of the 80's and 90's cost the US taxpayers $124.6 billion. The current subprime mortgage crisis IS costing taxpayers everywhere. These are just a few examples.
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..

join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH

reply to TKJunkMail
Whatever works.....

Paint the picture of doom and gloom, and fear monger as much as you like. If it makes the broadband landscape in the US better, I'm for it. I don't have any allegiance to any corporations pocketbook, so I'm actually open to suggestions.


pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

reply to elios
said by elios See Profile :

really? seems to working well in UT
UTOPIA seems to be doing well and this is pretty much what the OP is saying
Last we checked, UTOPIA was $98 million in the hole. The taxpayers are on the hook for this. At least if a private company wasted that kind of cash, the general public would not be on the hook for anything.
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elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO
reply to TKJunkMail
really? seems to working well in UT
UTOPIA seems to be doing well and this is pretty much what the OP is saying

and imo id take UTOPIA over FiOS any day


TKJunkMail
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reply to wentlanc
said by wentlanc See Profile :

Remove the transport from greedy corporations, and let them really compete for access.
Confiscation? That is your solution? Nationalizing an industry is the favorite tactic of socialist dictators everywhere. Let's turn the US in to Cuba or Venezuela.
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