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danawhitakerSpace...The Final FrontierPremium join:2002-03-02 Urbandale, IA | Parental Responsibility?
Again, where are parents in the equation? I agree that since it's DIA's network, they have the *right* to filter it as they see fit. Why though do they always choose to concede to such small-minded, paranoid individuals who are afraid to actually parent and want everyone else to do it for them? And why they can't find better filters that don't weed out legitimate content is another issue I find irritating.
I always try to avoid looking at what people are doing on their laptops in public, simply as a courtesy. I hope that someone would do the same as me, and I doubly hope they would teach their children to be respectful of other people's privacy too. That means not peering over to see what's on my laptop screen.
I highly doubt that there are many people who would actually sit there in public and surf for pornography. I'm sure plenty of people who would be wiling to do that already have some stashed on their hard drives. Is DIA going to start scanning everyone's hard drives and deleting content they find inappropriate lest they offend someone?
People blow the risk for these things way out of proportion. And if parents are concerned that their own children are going to use their own computers to surf for pornography or other content deemed inappropriate, again, that's something that they should handle at the family level rather than expecting that it be taken care of at the internet-service level.
Having been to the Denver airport, seeing pornography on some random traveler's laptop is the least of my concerns. -- You're watching Sports Night on CSC so stick around... | |
|  evilghostPremium join:2003-11-22 Springville, AL 1 edit | Re: Parental Responsibility? Unless you want children parading through airports with blinders on your post makes little sense. The point of the content filtering is to avoid exposure of pornography to minors when walking by other users of the service. Obviously you're not a parent, if you were, you'd quickly understanding that turning a child into a obedient robot (child, do not look at laptop screens) is as easy as convincing a smoker that the world isn't his ashtray and butts should be thrown into a trashcan or ashtray, not on the ground. | |
|  |  danawhitakerSpace...The Final FrontierPremium join:2002-03-02 Urbandale, IA | Re: Parental Responsibility? "The point of the content filtering is to avoid exposure of pornography to minors when walking by other users of the service. Obviously you're not a parent, if you were, you'd quickly understanding that turning a child into a obedient robot (child, do not look at laptop screens) is as easy as convincing a smoker that the world isn't his ashtray and butts should be thrown into a trashcan or ashtray, not on the ground."
Actually, I *am* a parent. I have a two year old child. And she's not an obedient robot, but she knows better than to go interrupt other people in public who are minding their own business. That means whether they're using a laptop, talking on their phone, or sitting there reading a book. I don't tolerate that kind of behavior. Too many parents are afraid to tell their children "no" and they just let them run amok. It's not rocket science. My concern about that stems partially from the fact that it's rude, and partially from the fear that I don't want my child to break something expensive I'd then need to cough up the money to replace. I take her out in public on a regular basis, too.
You don't need to walk through the airport with blinders on to avoid seeing "pornography" or offensive content. Odds are likely, again, that someone dong this would not have their laptop facing outward for everyone to view just by walking by. I'm sure it happens on rare occasions, but that's about as likely as seeing pornography on someone's in-car television while you pass them - which I've heard of, but extremely rarely. And if I did, I'd chuckle, move on, and not make a bigger deal out of it than it needs to be.
Like someone below this said, parents are afraid to even talk to their kids about these things. A very young child isn't going to know what the heck it is, and a child old enough to ought to have things properly explained to them by their parents instead of parents thinking schools should dish out the facts of life at an appropriate age while they bury their heads in the sand and hope their child will never utter the word "sex" until after they're grown. You can protect children from the world, or you can prepare them for the reality of it. I prefer to take the latter course of action. We're already seeing the results of parents who try and shield their kids from everything, and it's not pretty. -- You're watching Sports Night on CSC so stick around... | |
|  |  |  evilghostPremium join:2003-11-22 Springville, AL 2 edits | Re: Parental Responsibility? I see. Evidently it's perfectly reasonable to allow someone to view pornographic material in a public place with the potential to expose such material to minors and if I say something about it then I've admitted I'm a bad parent because I won't talk to my young children about sexual intercourse and their respective deviant acts....
Perhaps we should permit 4 year olds to see NC-17 films, enter strip clubs, and quaff beer under the guise of preparation for the real world. | |
|  |  |  |  | | Re: Parental Responsibility? Well, unlike cigarette smoke pornography isn't harmful, but since your parents screwed you up with regard to what is and isn't "deviant", please, feel free to continue the tradition with your own children.
A good parent should feel able to discuss anything with their children that their children ask them about. Otherwise, we'll continue the long line of deviant Puritans (also redundant) that we currently have.
God forbid anyone disagree with you about how to raise children.  | |
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 |  |  | | Finally. A parent who understands the way things SHOULD be, rather than knee-jerk reacting to things that are a part of life. I applaud you for that and completely agree about preparing kids, rather than blocking their eyes from seeing life until they're grown - potentially stunting their social life, by the way. | |
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| said by danawhitaker:Again, where are parents in the equation? Parents have nothing to do with the equasion here. The airport wants to provide an alluring service (free WiFi), but they want to keep the complaints associated with such a service to a minimum. By using filters (even if they are too stringent), they're trying to remove the "whiny parents" factor from the equasion altogether.
As for "why didn't they use the better 'Brand X' web filters instead, well...you'd have to talk with the person who made the purchase. Maybe this one had more features, cost less, or came with fuzzy dice, whatever - it still doesn't matter. Its their network, and they can use whichever filters they want to use. If that means you're missing out on your favorite Boing Boing pages, oh well. Find a Starbucks, pay them, and then get all the airport unfiltered access you want. | |
|  |  | | Re: Parental Responsibility? "Whiny parents"... a little redundant, don't you think?
Why do parents "fear" porn or nudity on "the web"? Because they're too embarrassed to discuss what it (as in, life) all means with their kids when their kids ask them about it. If parents actually raised their kids to understand what life and everything that goes with it were all about, then there would be a lot less "whining" about what other people choose to do with their own lives--something everyone has every right to do. | |
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