marigolds
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said by pnh102  :said by marigolds :None of those are spatial databases. Zero. Useless for spatial analysis. Completely useless for network analysis. Again, the information is there. It may not be in a convenient form, but it is there. Since most customers are more than capable of determining broadband availability on their own, I see no need for a government mandate. No, it is not there in any form.
If I type in 7900 Forsyth Blvd, Clayton, MO, there is no indication of where that is according to the records of that company. They could consider that to be the bottom floor of the northmost building on that lot. They could consider that to the be the 8th floor of the southeast building. They might consider that to be part of the city of Clayton, or part of unincorporated St Louis County. They might mean the intersection of Forsyth and Central or the intersection of Forsyth and Meramac.
Which is it? Who knows. The companies are not going to say because that would be a statement of accuracy which they will not make.
So, where is the spatial database? Where is the record source that says whether or not there is service at 38.650025 North, 90.339069 W in NAD83 (and translate that relative to the correct HARN State Plane System for survey use)?
Because it is certainly not available in any of the links you provide, and without it you cannot map that broadband availability information.
This is not just about whether or not a consumer can find if they have service, it is about relevant agencies being able to conduct appropriate mapping and spatial analysis necessary for national security and emergency management.
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said by marigolds :None of those are spatial databases. Zero. Useless for spatial analysis. Completely useless for network analysis. Again, the information is there. It may not be in a convenient form, but it is there. Since most customers are more than capable of determining broadband availability on their own, I see no need for a government mandate.
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marigolds
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None of those are spatial databases.
Zero.
Useless for spatial analysis.
Completely useless for network analysis.
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said by marigolds :Where? I have yet to find the spatial database with that information. Here we go again:
FIOS lookup by address: »www22.verizon.com/fiosforhome/ch···ntry.asp
Verizon DSL lookup by address: »www22.verizon.com/content/consum···ress.htm
AT&T DSL lookup by address:
»https://swot.sbc.com/swot/canIOrderOnlin···ocessDSL
QWest DSL lookup by address:
»www.qwest.com/residential/intern···ual.html
I decided to bother with looking up the links for Cable ISPs as well as some people had griped that I had missed that. I regret the omission.
Cox - »https://secure.cox.com/service/offers/av···ces.aspx
Comcast - (FINALLY) »https://www.comcast.com/Localization/Loc···x&area=6
Time Warner's websites are state specific.
It took me about 10 minutes to compile this list. Anyone else who is interested is more than welcome to go to these websites and knock themselves out.
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