zod5000
join:2003-10-21 Edmonton, AB
·TELUS
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| are resellers really competition? I still don't consider "resellers" to be competition. The DSL/Cables aren't going to sell their bandwidth so low, or rent their lines so low, that the competition will be able to undercut them.
You're also telling the companies that if you go and shell out all the money to lay down fibre/copper or whatever else, you've gotta share it... I've always wondered if that was a detractor for broadband improvement. | |
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  battleop
join:2005-09-28 00000
| Re: are resellers really competition? "I still don't consider "resellers" to be competition."
You are confusing a Reseller and an NSP. They are buying last mile services from the Lec. They buy a wholesale loop from the customer prem to their network. They use their IPs, Servers, Bandwidth, Support, Modems, etc.
"You're also telling the companies that if you go and shell out all the money to lay down fibre/copper or whatever else"
Yes, if they intend to take advantage of the USF and other programs that are free money from the government by all means they should share that. If they do not want to do that they should refuse the USF fees.
BTW NSPs and CLecs that collect USF fees have to give that back to the ILec. | |
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  Steve Jobs American living in Canada Premium join:2002-06-23 Scarborough, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
1 edit | said by zod5000 :I still don't consider "resellers" to be competition. The DSL/Cables aren't going to sell their bandwidth so low, or rent their lines so low, that the competition will be able to undercut them. You're also telling the companies that if you go and shell out all the money to lay down fibre/copper or whatever else, you've gotta share it... I've always wondered if that was a detractor for broadband improvement. Look at Teksavvy's prices compared to Bell. MUCH cheaper than them with a higher cap and NO throttling. And they are resellers. | |
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 |   netwerk Premium join:2003-02-03 BC | Re: are resellers really competition? Do you really think Bell and TELUS and going to investing millions of dollars into GPON when the CRTC will make them handover the fiber to home to companies like TS etc. | |
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 |  |  cornelius785
join:2006-10-26 Worcester, MA | Re: are resellers really competition? after reading that, i crazy (huge emphasis on crazy) idea popped into my head. could resellers be hurting the upgrade to fiber? i probably should put down the pipe and pass it along. | |
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 |  |   james
join:2001-02-26 antarctica | They sure as hell wont if they aren't required to, that's for sure. | |
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 |  |  TheMG
join:2007-09-04 Edmonton, AB 1 edit | Meh, i'd rather not have fiber at all than to have a connection that is crippled by low caps, blocked ports, and restrictive service agreements, which is the current state of affair with Telus's DSL service. | |
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 Gardener Premium join:2006-10-19 Burnaby, BC
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| said by zod5000 :I still don't consider "resellers" to be competition. The "last mile" needs sharing - otherwise any competing carrier would have to run wire directly to the premises. I already have six power wires, two telco, and one cablevision strung up on poles in front of my house. I do not want more.
It's not true competition but it is better than none at all. Maybe the "last mile" should be owned and operated by something other than the phone & cable companies. City-owned networking, anyone? | |
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 |   dfaf
@chevrontexaco.com | Re: are resellers really competition? Follow the French, Swedish & Japanese Models! It seems to work for them | |
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 |  |  cornelius785
join:2006-10-26 Worcester, MA
| Re: are resellers really competition? don't forget the political structures and government types in europe are vastly different from the USA. european countries tend to have socialized governments in which many services are owned/heavily subsidized/invested in by the government. this is not the case in the USA. | |
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