 RickPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT | FCC's Martin says.. "One of the most important and one of the most troubling aspects of the complaints in front of us is that at first the network operator denied that they were engaged in this kind of a practice publicly," Martin told conference attendees."
While I'll stand corrected if someone can point me to an actual link to where Comcast ever said that...my recollection is that they never said that at all.
What Comcast DID do was to deny blocking access to any websites or applications. We can debate terminology here all day but blocking and throttling or traffic shaping are worlds away from each other.
BLOCKING..is preventing someone from doing something. From having access to something. From denying them the RIGHT to do something. BLOCKING..can be a very ugly thing indeed.
Throttling..or traffic shaping..which I believe Comcast has ALWAYS maintained they do and have the right to do..at least in the TOS that I read when signing up with them..gives them the right to reasonably maintain and protect their network..
for the benefit of all their users.
If a p2p user is going to come along and continually saturate the upstream on this type of a network..they are going to dramatically impact the service for others.
This is a shared network..paid for by all their subscribers..and everyone has a right to their fair share use of it. As a society we have rules and regulations that help regulate and control our movements in many ways..in much the same manner. We have traffic lights that stop us at intersections. And rope lines set up at events that shape the way we make our way to the doors and into the buildings.
Those lights..and ropes however..don't BLOCK us from accessing something. They shape the way we move..to maintain orderly process.
What some seem to be suggesting here is that the traffic lights should come down..and people should just stampede the doors instead to make their way in.
And that's just not how it works..nor should it work that way.
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 ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4 | Interesting.....
So next time you are trying to get to the office and all the roads are closed everytime you go down the street, then you are just being delayed which is PERFECTLY ok. |
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| You misunderstand the situation; Comcast does not "close the roads" all the time, they only close the road when the network is overloaded.
To use a different analogy, consider a bouncer for a popular club. When the club is busy, a bouncer stops new customers from going in; after some customers leave, the bouncer lets more people in. It is true that the bouncer sometimes blocks people, but the reason for blocking people is to delay them from entering the bar when the bar is congested.
Now I'm not a Comcast customer, so I don't know for sure which analogy is true. Perhaps someone who is a Comcast customer can tell us what, if anything, Comcast blocks permanently rather than simply delaying. |
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ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
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You misunderstand the situation; Comcast does not "close the roads" all the time, they only close the road when the network is overloaded.
To use a different analogy, consider a bouncer for a popular club. When the club is busy, a bouncer stops new customers from going in; after some customers leave, the bouncer lets more people in. It is true that the bouncer sometimes blocks people, but the reason for blocking people is to delay them from entering the bar when the bar is congested.
Now I'm not a Comcast customer, so I don't know for sure which analogy is true. Perhaps someone who is a Comcast customer can tell us what, if anything, Comcast blocks permanently rather than simply delaying.
My point was that if you continually are delayed, you will eventually be blocked from reaching your destination. |
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