Re: proprietory apple in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20137208 en Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:36:57 EDT Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:36:57 EDT Re: proprietory apple http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20144416 patcat88 : But its illegal to use that API to its fullest extent.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20144416 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:44:16 EDT Re: proprietory apple http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20140467 TechieZero : ???

You don't need a lot of bandwidth for voice. 5-10K tops.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20140467 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:14:16 EDT Re: proprietory apple http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20138592 Johnny :
said by patcat88 See Profile :

Get a real PDA phone with a real OS and a real API.
I am going to assume that you have not programmed in the iPhone's API. I spent this weekend doing it and it is a full version of OS X with the new UIKit that supports fully animated views, layers, transparency, access to the Address Book API, access to the accelerometers, OpenGL or Quartz for drawing, and an iPhone simulator.

You develop in Objective-C on Xcode just as you do for desktop apps. The full Cocoa frameworks are available as well as the full OpenBSD layer.

As of now, you have to programmatically develop the interface elements of window, views, animations, buttons, sliders, switches, and there is a full touch events API for getting all the various combinations of multi-touch actions. Interface Builder will be supported in the final version and will make constructing the interface many times easier.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20138592 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:17:38 EDT Re: proprietory apple http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20138126 bobjohnson :
said by MadDog3057 See Profile :

said by patcat88 See Profile :

Get a real PDA phone with a real OS and a real API.
Of course, because the iPhone is not a real phone, doesn't have a real OS or real API's. Guess all that stuff is fake. :uhh:
Why exactly do they want you to pay hundreds of dollars for something and then not let you do whatever you want with it.. What does it hurt them to let you do what you want with it?? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20138126 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:59:13 EDT Re: proprietory apple http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20137781 flyingjoey : hahahah

Dude... check this out...
I've been a sprint customer for 11 years. I have 3 sprint phones under my account. I have an ATT crackberry from work which I pulled its SIM card from and popped it in an 8gig iPhone I picked up from my coworker for 200 bucks.

More so... I have a verizon data card in my work backpack. The only network I don't get to play with is T-Mo's.

I asked a buddy of mine to lend me try his tmo sim on my iphone... i had to get near the window to get signal... so T-mo's crap to me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20137781 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:42:40 EDT Re: proprietory apple http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20137361 patcat88 : Exactly, Windows Mobile is a proper OS (lets not go there) that doesn't get locked down at the whim of each carrier. I'm going to guess (don't know these too well) that Symbian and Palm also are proper OSes with open APIs which aren't arbitrarily limited by phone manufacturers or cell carriers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20137361 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:15:54 EDT Re: proprietory apple http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20137208 digiblur :
said by patcat88 See Profile :

Get a real PDA phone with a real OS and a real API.
But but but.... my ughPhone is cute, even though it can't do anything. ;)

I think it is funny since people with real phones have had the ability to use VoIP over the WiFi and even the cellular connection for quite sometime!
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said by patcat88 See Profile :

Get a real PDA phone with a real OS and a real API.
Of course, because the iPhone is not a real phone, doesn't have a real OS or real API's. Guess all that stuff is fake. :uhh:
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"Nothing is impossible, you just don't have the technology or the knowledge to do it"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20135263 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:13:33 EDT Re: proprietory apple http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20135176 badsez : which voip service do u use on sprint?
i have a motorola Q.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20135176 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:56:18 EDT Re: proprietory apple http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20135039 zed260 : »blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2008/···nne.html

so maybe no firefox for iphone]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20135039 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:26:56 EDT Re: proprietory apple http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20135038 flyingjoey : Although apple is party responsible for the shortcomings of the IPhone, but I'd blame ATT this time around.

You can't do VOIP over an anemic EDGE network. Now if Apple would have gone with Sprint, we would have already been using VoIP.

Even my 2 year old PPC6700 phone can do 800-1.1mbit. The most I've seen on edge is 130k... now that's sad.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20135038 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:26:42 EDT proprietory apple http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20134986 patcat88 : Get a real PDA phone with a real OS and a real API.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20134986 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:11:49 EDT