 Sailor Jim
join:2008-01-14 Osyka, MS
| I have Fiber in my front yard - What now?
I live in a rural area of SW Mississippi (Gillsburg) and I am severely missing high-speed internet. My only options are dial-up or satellite (tried it and canceled because of the 2000ms latency and FAP).
I recently figured out that our whole area has fiber buried along the roadways, yet no one seems to be offering us any internet with it.
I was wondering, since I have fiber optics buried less than 20 feet from my front door with an above ground access point, what can I do to get some internet set up? Is there any company or anyone else that could come set me up some internet?
I am desperate for some highspeed internet, guys. Any help would be MAJORLY appreciated. |
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 LazMan
join:2003-03-26 Angus, ON
·Bell Sympatico
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| It's all about the money... Fibre itself is cheap, but the investment required to bring a given service to a location, is expensive. The cables out on your road are used for long-haul transmission. To install a drop from the closest splice to your home would probably cost a few thousand; the electronics to bring you a T3 (45 megs) or a Gig-E off that fibre would be in the $25k range.
That kind of investment makes it almost impossible for a company to make a return on the their investment... Say $30k to install, over a 3 year contract. You'd be close to a grand a month, before the company's even broke even, let alone made money off the deal... It's just not economically feasible.
The joys of rural life, eh?
Laz |
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  seangprice
join:2002-09-10 Coalville, UT clubs:
·All West Communica..
| Have you looked into ISDN? (Integrated Services Digital Network) or IDSL (Integrated Digital Subscriber Line)? They are older technologies, but can deliver up to 144k/144k long distances.
ISDN is somewhat like Dial-up, but with one or two "B" channels that deliver 64k per channel, and a third "D" channel for ISP com. Some companies offer unlimited service, some charge by the hour.
IDSL is a dedicated DSL phone line. Its a secondary line to your primary telephone. It can offer slightly faster speeds up to 144k, they combine both the "B" channel and the "D" channel for one , always on digital connection. The downside is that the second line can only be used for the IDSL connection. |
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 Sailor Jim
join:2008-01-14 Osyka, MS
| I have thought about IDSL, but I have no idea how to go about getting it. AT&T doesn't offer it and a couple of other ISP's I called didn't even know what it was. That 144K up and down should be plenty enough to do the things I want to do with it, but I just have to find someone that will do it. |
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  CoxCable4 banned from most servers for cheating
join:2002-10-02 PwnZone
·RoadRunner Cable
| idsl isn't offered in your area.
»www.bellsouth.com/residential_is···_ms.html
theres your best bet. it's not unlimited usage though.
why not try finding out who owns or operates the buried cable in front of your house? if they say yes we can give you a drop you'll probably have to pay an installation fee in the thousands though |
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  DaMaGeINC The Lan Man Premium join:2002-06-08 Greenville, SC clubs: | reply to Sailor Jim "Re: I have Fiber in my front yard - What now?"
How about wave at it. Cause its not going to do you any good thinking about it. |
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 JoelC707
join:2002-07-09 Scottdale, GA clubs:
| reply to Sailor Jim You would likely have better luck and come out cheaper in the long run trying to get a T1 circuit. On average T1's run about $500 a month which will be cheaper than the optical services (T3/DS3 typically run $2000 a month or more) but being far out could cause that price to go up. Still even if you consider the build out cost to get that fiber usable for you and the monthly cost, you could get years of service with a T1 before you break even. Try asking the guys here: »ISP b2b etc. Make sure they know it is a residence as some providers do not like to service residential areas (Qwest for example). Also, have you looked to see if there are any wireless ISP's in the area? You might be able to get "normal" broadband speeds at "normal" prices from them. |
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  DaMaGeINC The Lan Man Premium join:2002-06-08 Greenville, SC clubs: | You do realize that T1's are incredibly slow right? Why would he want that? The entire point of this thread is he prolly wants something fast(ie fiber) |
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 JoelC707
join:2002-07-09 Scottdale, GA clubs:
| You do realize that T1's are 10 - 12 times faster than the ISDN/IDSL options the others suggested and about 27 times faster than the absolute best possible speed you could hope for on dial-up (I used 56K for the dial-up comparison, real world speeds will only drive the margin higher in favor of the T1)? Tell me, how is that slow? Sure it is dwarfed on the download side by almost any "normal" broadband connection but he can't get those options so to him a T1 is the fastest thing he could reasonably get unless a Wisp is in his area.
If he really wants to pursue the fiber which we have already told him is likely not an option that is fine. I am simply giving him another option that will likely come out at the same price as the ISDN when you factor in the connection costs given the link posted earlier did not offer unlimited service. Sure a T1 can't hope to compete with the price point of fiber, assuming you don't have to factor in build out costs, but in this case you do so I don't see it as a price competitive option. |
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  cob_ 1310nm Of Goodness Premium join:2003-07-08 Tulsa, OK
| reply to Sailor Jim If you get cell service out there, a 3G card of some type from any of the wireless carriers + a D-Link 3G router would probably be your best bet. I have a colleague in a similar situation who is using this solution; I watched Wiltel (now Level 3) run a big, fat orange cable no more than a 1/4 mile from his house.
»www.sprint.com/business/products···rZip.jsp
»www.wireless.att.com/coveragevie···.html#MS -- "No matter how hard you push and no matter what the priority, you can't increase the speed of light."
- RFC 1925 |
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  CoxCable4 banned from most servers for cheating
join:2002-10-02 PwnZone
·RoadRunner Cable
|  Sprint broadband coverage |  Verizon broadband coverage |
sprint and verizon only have cdma speed coverage (basically 56k) no evdo for that area.
At&t who is late in the game for bringing cellular broadband also has none for your area. |
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