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La Luna
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Re: The tendency of (pre-checked) toolbars
No Google toolbar even offered with the last Sun Java update here. *shrug*
While I understand the *conflict* of security apps wanting to install toolbars, and the fact that install is checked by default in some cases, as long as they don't install them without user knowledge at all, it doesn't really bother me. A LOT of people use, at the very least, the google and yahoo toolbars anyway.
If it gets installed because someone didn't uncheck a box, they weren't paying attention.
From that list, I use CCleaner, ThreatFire, Sun Java, Daemon Tools and Zone Alarm, and have never had a toolbar installed inadvertently.
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GroovyPhoenx
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| said by La Luna  :No Google toolbar even offered with the last Sun Java update here. *shrug* While I understand the *conflict* of security apps wanting to install toolbars, and the fact that install is checked by default in some cases, as long as they don't install them without user knowledge at all, it doesn't really bother me. A LOT of people use, at the very least, the google and yahoo toolbars anyway. If it gets installed because someone didn't uncheck a box, they weren't paying attention. I have to disagree with this statement, in most cases the person is not fully aware they are installing this, if you use a "standard" install versus a "custom" install then most times these toolbars will be installed. (Its one reason experienced users should use custom) I usually use custom because I want to tell software where to go (tools under C:\tools, games under c:\games etc etc.)
Point being default installs will not show up the toolbars in a lot of cases (Adobe for one) | |
La Luna
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| said by GroovyPhoenx :said by La Luna :No Google toolbar even offered with the last Sun Java update here. *shrug* While I understand the *conflict* of security apps wanting to install toolbars, and the fact that install is checked by default in some cases, as long as they don't install them without user knowledge at all, it doesn't really bother me. A LOT of people use, at the very least, the google and yahoo toolbars anyway. If it gets installed because someone didn't uncheck a box, they weren't paying attention. I have to disagree with this statement, in most cases the person is not fully aware they are installing this, if you use a "standard" install versus a "custom" install then most times these toolbars will be installed. (Its one reason experienced users should use custom) I usually use custom because I want to tell software where to go (tools under C:\tools, games under c:\games etc etc.) Point being default installs will not show up the toolbars in a lot of cases (Adobe for one) Hence, the reason why I said people don't pay attention, they install stuff willy nilly, as fast as they can.
Not *all* software has a "custom" option anyway. In most cases the toolbar install option is right there in your face.
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| said by La Luna :said by GroovyPhoenx : I have to disagree with this statement, in most cases the person is not fully aware they are installing this, if you use a "standard" install versus a "custom" install then most times these toolbars will be installed. (Its one reason experienced users should use custom) I usually use custom because I want to tell software where to go (tools under C:\tools, games under c:\games etc etc.) Agree, most of the non-experienced users will think it is OK to hit the "standard" install button. Companies know this behavior very well and misuse this knowledge in a shameless way.
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