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CConverse

join:2006-01-31
Syracuse, NY

reply to bear73
Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..."

Thank you. Users are responsible for educating themselves. I would imagine most of us lock our house and car doors before leaving them unattended. This really is not so different. Every router sold from the manufacturer comes with instructions on how to secure it. And if that's not enough there's free tech support 24/7. My Linksys manual strongly recommended setting up the encryption. Probably even states in the fine print that comes with the gadget that if you don't secure it, you're responsible for what happens. If you didn't take the time to protect yourself, the only one responsible is you.
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gokudre

join:2004-10-19
Chicopee, MA
reply to DaMaGeINC
request sent.. how do i contact you?


Yowzaaah
Ours Go To Eleven

join:2000-12-14
DamnFlat, OH
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reply to DaMaGeINC
I've only managed to use my neighbors in times of TW being down (they have DSL). I envy you, seriously. Aren't you afraid one day they are going to watch Oprah, hear the evils of unprotected wi-fi and encrypt their routers?

Don't let the ninnies here give you flack, they're just as jealous as I am and are too uptight to admit it. Frankly, if the connection is open, what's the harm of sending your packets across it. Who is damaged by your neighbors acts of unintentional kindness? Certainly not the @ssr@ping cable companies who charge $57 a month for those who have the nerve to purchase "unbundled" such as I do. Phuctards. You keep on doin' what your doin' and smile a little broader with every free email you send.
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
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·AT&T Southeast

reply to bear73
Thank you. I am very respectful with the connections. And since I have been load-balancing two of them, its even less strain for them both. I could throw in a few more nic's and some more ap's and really spread the load. *evil grin* Just like a few of you said, I do it to see if I can and to learn from it, and reap the benefits.


bear73
Metnav... Fly The Unfriendly Skies
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join:2001-06-09
Grand Forks Afb, ND
·Midcontinent Commu..

reply to imanogre
A better analogy would be a peeping tom watching your big-screen TV through your open picture window...

Close teh drapes and do humanity a favor.

if DM isn't running a spam server, whatever! obviously the folks he's pulling from haven't noticed... hell, I was borrowing a neighbor's wifi for about 8 months until he noticed he forgot to lock it down. he asked me if I knew and had surfed. I told him the truth. He got mad at himself...
It's not like we are charged by the byte!
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
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reply to FiL
said by FiL See Profile :

If you could get our house up and running so nicely, you'd have a free room here in D.C. Damage...
Nice!!! I might take you up on that!!!


rosco
Premium
join:2003-11-10
USA
·Verizon Online DSL

reply to FiL
said by FiL See Profile :

and yes, its broadcast into my home, so I'm using it.
that's how I feel right there.

I don't go out of my way to use anyones wifi, but if my computer can associate and get an ip from my bedroom, with no fancy tactics on my part, then its the neighbors bad for broadcasting to my home.


FiL
Premium
join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD
reply to DaMaGeINC
If you could get our house up and running so nicely, you'd have a free room here in D.C. Damage...


FiL
Premium
join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD
reply to 81399672
Its not that we don't care. It's more so the convenience factor, and yes, its broadcast into my home, so I'm using it. They lock it down later, so what. No loss to either of us.

Your right though, your more then ok to NOT use the free wifi...


FiL
Premium
join:2005-08-16
Silver Spring, MD
reply to DaMaGeINC
keep doing you, DM. I do the same. Plus I don't bog down their connection. Your not breaking any law, so what these fools got to use to judge you against?


DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
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reply to patcat88
That fiber was used when I had my fiber switch working. I have 3 1000base sx cards in the servers and 1 of the pc's in the house. But the switch died, so I just have alot of fiber laying around.


MrMaster
What If
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join:2000-12-16
Austin, TX
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reply to imanogre
said by imanogre See Profile :

That's awesome logic. I might as well go take my neighbor's car tonight for a late night drive through Atlanta. They're not going to need it, they're sleeping.

And I'm sure there's no way the bank could use all that money they have in their vault. As long as I can make my wallet fatter right?
To be fair, there is a difference between using something physical and something that is not physical. He's using a connection that is unlimited so technically he isn't hurting anyone. If you don't want people using your connection then lock it down!

I use to have my AP open but when a douchebag neighbor decides he can run p2p on it when I am trying to play a FPS. The free ride is over!


LilYoda
Feline with squirel personality disorder
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join:2004-09-02
Mountains

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reply to DaMaGeINC


Event though that last 2500 could use a power cable and a press on the power button to deliver its full potential...

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
reply to DaMaGeINC
I call bull on on the last 2 photos. Why the hell is there fiber there?

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

reply to en102
IEEE needs to be shot for not having variable/dynamic/on the fly changing transmit power. APs/wifi clients dont reduce their transmit power when they are closer. That causes serious wifi pollution problems. Goto Union Square in NYC, I get about 1000 APs, none of them connectable.

BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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reply to Jerm
said by Jerm See Profile :

Bosstones-

LOL nice. But I got you pwn'd. Athlon 600mhz 256mb & PFSENSE running 6 NICs.

Problem I have is due to seeing 38 different networks (or 48 if I use the big grid) I get a lot of interference. Damn channel 6 and it's 20 APs!

Also 60mbps is a bit crazy considering 38mbps is DOCSIS payload max. You must have neighbors on different nodes? How do you share the lines (wifi? then isn't 10mbps about the max you can pull?)
Not only wireless , we have wires buried to the 2 houses next to me. My wifi comes from the 2 local school buildings they are new schools and offer open wifi in the library. They are linked with a ds3 to the city. Kind of slow about 18 mbit. And we have an apartment complex behind me. They have service included in the cost of the condo I don't even know the speed I am told its comcast but like a hotel system where you just plug in an ethernet cable.

But 2 friends on Comcast 1 On EVDO 1 in the Condo and the 2 local schools. we are all on the 8/768 option , the condo alone I can get 12 mbit , the 2 schools tap out at 18 each at night. They are wireless g not encrypted. With powerboost (when it works) and the cable connections we can hit 48 or 50 mbit. The wireless links only add at nite and the evdo is really just a back up in case comcast and the schools go down. They tend to go down around the same time a lot, but show different ips. and the ips dont show to be owned by comcast.
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imanogre

join:2005-11-29
Mcdonough, GA

reply to DaMaGeINC
That's awesome logic. I might as well go take my neighbor's car tonight for a late night drive through Atlanta. They're not going to need it, they're sleeping.

And I'm sure there's no way the bank could use all that money they have in their vault. As long as I can make my wallet fatter right?


EG
The wings of love
Premium
join:2006-11-18
Union, NJ
reply to DaMaGeINC
One day ye shall meet yer maker, and be judged....


Jerm

join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA

reply to BosstonesOwn
Bosstones-

LOL nice. But I got you pwn'd. Athlon 600mhz 256mb & PFSENSE running 6 NICs.

Problem I have is due to seeing 38 different networks (or 48 if I use the big grid) I get a lot of interference. Damn channel 6 and it's 20 APs!

Also 60mbps is a bit crazy considering 38mbps is DOCSIS payload max. You must have neighbors on different nodes? How do you share the lines (wifi? then isn't 10mbps about the max you can pull?)

BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast

reply to verolom
said by verolom See Profile :

I see an AT&T peeking on top of the rack.

In my book if you can do all this you deserve the free inet, (and maybe free room and board at a state facility
Any self respecting geek can do it with less gear. And less power use 1 P3 933 with a gig of ram and pfsense. Me and my neighbors share multiple connections via these wonders. Really nice to open up a download and get 60 mbit when you can get powerboost going.
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