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Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20140848 en Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:41:07 EDT Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:41:07 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20164582 CConverse : Thank you. Users are responsible for educating themselves. I would imagine most of us lock our house and car doors before leaving them unattended. This really is not so different. Every router sold from the manufacturer comes with instructions on how to secure it. And if that's not enough there's free tech support 24/7. My Linksys manual strongly recommended setting up the encryption. Probably even states in the fine print that comes with the gadget that if you don't secure it, you're responsible for what happens. If you didn't take the time to protect yourself, the only one responsible is you.
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Don't let the ninnies here give you flack, they're just as jealous as I am and are too uptight to admit it. Frankly, if the connection is open, what's the harm of sending your packets across it. Who is damaged by your neighbors acts of unintentional kindness? Certainly not the @ssr@ping cable companies who charge $57 a month for those who have the nerve to purchase "unbundled" such as I do. Phuctards. You keep on doin' what your doin' and smile a little broader with every free email you send.
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Close teh drapes and do humanity a favor.

if DM isn't running a spam server, whatever! obviously the folks he's pulling from haven't noticed... hell, I was borrowing a neighbor's wifi for about 8 months until he noticed he forgot to lock it down. he asked me if I knew and had surfed. I told him the truth. He got mad at himself...
It's not like we are charged by the byte!
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said by FiL

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If you could get our house up and running so nicely, you'd have a free room here in D.C. Damage... ;)

Nice!!! I might take you up on that!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20147214 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:23:51 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20146665 rosco :

said by FiL

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and yes, its broadcast into my home, so I'm using it.

that's how I feel right there.

I don't go out of my way to use anyones wifi, but if my computer can associate and get an ip from my bedroom, with no fancy tactics on my part, then its the neighbors bad for broadcasting to my home.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20146665 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:43:42 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20146663 FiL : If you could get our house up and running so nicely, you'd have a free room here in D.C. Damage... ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20146663 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:43:35 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20146645 FiL : Its not that we don't care. It's more so the convenience factor, and yes, its broadcast into my home, so I'm using it. They lock it down later, so what. No loss to either of us.

Your right though, your more then ok to NOT use the free wifi...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20146645 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:40:46 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20146636 FiL : keep doing you, DM. I do the same. Plus I don't bog down their connection. Your not breaking any law, so what these fools got to use to judge you against? ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20146636 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:38:39 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20145859 DaMaGeINC : That fiber was used when I had my fiber switch working. I have 3 1000base sx cards in the servers and 1 of the pc's in the house. But the switch died, so I just have alot of fiber laying around.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20145859 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:28:28 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20145364 MrMaster :

said by imanogre

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That's awesome logic. I might as well go take my neighbor's car tonight for a late night drive through Atlanta. They're not going to need it, they're sleeping.

And I'm sure there's no way the bank could use all that money they have in their vault. As long as I can make my wallet fatter right?

To be fair, there is a difference between using something physical and something that is not physical. He's using a connection that is unlimited so technically he isn't hurting anyone. If you don't want people using your connection then lock it down!

I use to have my AP open but when a douchebag neighbor decides he can run p2p on it when I am trying to play a FPS. The free ride is over!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20145364 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:52:06 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20144774 LilYoda :

Event though that last 2500 could use a power cable and a press on the power button to deliver its full potential...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20144774 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:44:00 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20144437 patcat88 : I call bull on on the last 2 photos. Why the hell is there fiber there?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20144437 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:51:35 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20144433 patcat88 : IEEE needs to be shot for not having variable/dynamic/on the fly changing transmit power. APs/wifi clients dont reduce their transmit power when they are closer. That causes serious wifi pollution problems. Goto Union Square in NYC, I get about 1000 APs, none of them connectable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20144433 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:50:21 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20144410 BosstonesOwn :

said by Jerm

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Bosstones-

LOL nice. But I got you pwn'd. Athlon 600mhz 256mb & PFSENSE running 6 NICs. :)

Problem I have is due to seeing 38 different networks (or 48 if I use the big grid) I get a lot of interference. Damn channel 6 and it's 20 APs!

Also 60mbps is a bit crazy considering 38mbps is DOCSIS payload max. You must have neighbors on different nodes? How do you share the lines (wifi? then isn't 10mbps about the max you can pull?)

Not only wireless , we have wires buried to the 2 houses next to me. My wifi comes from the 2 local school buildings they are new schools and offer open wifi in the library. They are linked with a ds3 to the city. Kind of slow about 18 mbit. And we have an apartment complex behind me. They have service included in the cost of the condo I don't even know the speed I am told its comcast but like a hotel system where you just plug in an ethernet cable.

But 2 friends on Comcast 1 On EVDO 1 in the Condo and the 2 local schools. we are all on the 8/768 option , the condo alone I can get 12 mbit , the 2 schools tap out at 18 each at night. They are wireless g not encrypted. With powerboost (when it works) and the cable connections we can hit 48 or 50 mbit. The wireless links only add at nite and the evdo is really just a back up in case comcast and the schools go down. They tend to go down around the same time a lot, but show different ips. and the ips dont show to be owned by comcast.
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And I'm sure there's no way the bank could use all that money they have in their vault. As long as I can make my wallet fatter right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20143803 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:52:42 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20143421 EG : One day ye shall meet yer maker, and be judged....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20143421 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:53:56 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20142925 Jerm : Bosstones-

LOL nice. But I got you pwn'd. Athlon 600mhz 256mb & PFSENSE running 6 NICs. :)

Problem I have is due to seeing 38 different networks (or 48 if I use the big grid) I get a lot of interference. Damn channel 6 and it's 20 APs!

Also 60mbps is a bit crazy considering 38mbps is DOCSIS payload max. You must have neighbors on different nodes? How do you share the lines (wifi? then isn't 10mbps about the max you can pull?)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20142925 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:29:16 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20142906 BosstonesOwn :

said by verolom

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I see an AT&T peeking on top of the rack.

In my book if you can do all this you deserve the free inet, (and maybe free room and board at a state facility ;)

Any self respecting geek can do it with less gear. And less power use :) 1 P3 933 with a gig of ram and pfsense. Me and my neighbors share multiple connections via these wonders. Really nice to open up a download and get 60 mbit when you can get powerboost going.
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I just did a site survey with my laptop and there was a lot of connections and most of them were secured. Some were not. My neighbor across the street has an open network. I will tell him to secure it. Really nice guy.

Neighbor 1

Neighbor 2

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20142625 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:34:16 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20142049 Boogeyman : I think the saving a few bucks a month was an added bonus. I'm guessing he just wanted to see if he could do it.

Very cool idea though. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20142049 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:55:19 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141737 81399672 :

said by amigo_boy

said by 81399672

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Most of us don't care about right or wrong.

I love speed bumps, just drive over them in suv at regular speed and nothing happenes. Photo radar are easy to win especially when they are issued on business vehicle name. So all of those are fine by me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141737 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:58:15 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141719 amigo_boy :

said by 81399672

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Most of us don't care about right or wrong.

And that's why the rest of us have speed bumps in residential neighborhoods, and photo radar, and warrantless wiretaps.

Our society has reached a tipping point where enough people can't do "the right thing" without being watched that we have to live down to lower common denominators.

Mark]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141719 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:54:21 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141624 81399672 :

said by TKJunkMail

said by DaMaGeINC

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Neighbors are too dumb to know anything is wrong.

And obviously you have no working knowledge of right or wrong.

Most of us don't care about right or wrong.Obviously you do, so you're more then welcome not to use free wifi]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141624 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:38:54 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141623 dvd536 :

said by DaMaGeINC

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Neighbors are too dumb to know anything is wrong.

Til they get a nastygram from their ISP :)
One of my linksys APs disappeared after seeding around 40gigs through it. :D :D
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You sure went through a lot of trouble just to save a few bucks a month.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141590 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:32:25 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141558 DaMaGeINC : Not like anyone ever contacted me. lol. But its not like a "BUSINESS" More like online tech help and stuff. get it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141558 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:26:41 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141516 en102 : For me ... these are a little more reliable/consistent for connectivity. I'd be having issues if they were running 'N'.
None of these are mine... including the unsecured wireless.

These give me 100Mbps anywhere in my house (85Mbps throughput due to 100Mbps ports)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141516 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:19:40 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141512 Jeffrey :

said by DaMaGeINC

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No biz here.

Oh, your profile seemed to mention somethng different. Might want to remove that, under Member Tech Services.

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141512 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:19:18 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141489 DaMaGeINC : No biz here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141489 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:16:41 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141487 DaMaGeINC : »www.pfsense.com/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141487 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:16:33 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141443 Jeffrey :

said by DaMaGeINC

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Do I care?

You should care if you're running an IT repair business off a stolen connection.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141443 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:07:38 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141421 fox7 : What are you using to prefrom the load balancing/sharing... and doulbe your band width?? I see the computer, but what OS, application, etc...

fox7]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141421 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:03:41 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141367 Dogfather : Lame.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141367 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:53:38 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141325 DaMaGeINC : Do I care?

ps, the way I see it, my knowledge has made my wallet a little bit fatter. So Im cool with "STEALING" internet. ok. end of story. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141325 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:48:11 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141313 TKJunkMail :

said by DaMaGeINC

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Neighbors are too dumb to know anything is wrong.

And obviously you have no working knowledge of right or wrong.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141313 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:45:27 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141081 anon :

said by en102

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I have too many WiFi neighbors in my area that WiFi from my own machine is useless (too much interference), and of course, it kills my Bluetooth headset.
I'm currently only seeing 4 from my backyard office.
In my garage attic, I typically get double that amount.

I stick to the Netgear HDX-101 for connectivity... less issues running SSH/Remote desktop.

Time to switch to 802.11a?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141081 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:03:37 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141010 DaMaGeINC :

said by quatrix

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The scary thing is that you sound like you're proud of yourself.

Yes, to an extent. But I do know its messed up. Im proud that I learned how to do this, and in the future, I could use the antennas to set up a p2p link for myself or something. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20141010 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:50:55 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20140984 quatrix : The scary thing is that you sound like you're proud of yourself.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20140984 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:46:01 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20140979 verolom : I see an AT&T peeking on top of the rack.

In my book if you can do all this you deserve the free inet, (and maybe free room and board at a state facility ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20140979 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:45:15 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20140977 en102 : I have too many WiFi neighbors in my area that WiFi from my own machine is useless (too much interference), and of course, it kills my Bluetooth headset.
I'm currently only seeing 4 from my backyard office.
In my garage attic, I typically get double that amount.

I stick to the Netgear HDX-101 for connectivity... less issues running SSH/Remote desktop.
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antenna 2
rack
gateway server

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20140855 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:24:31 EDT Re: "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20140848 MrMaster : and your neighbors are cool with this?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20140848 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:23:54 EDT "Wi-Fi freeloaders would probably beg to differ..." http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20140782 DaMaGeINC : That would be me. I have not paid for internet access for the past year. I set up 2 14dBi patch antennas at each end of my house and have been getting free access to my neighbors wireless networks this whole time. I even set up a load balancing server that does round robin to each AP. So im surfing at 20Mbps/2Mbps. Pics available upon request.
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