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tc1uscg

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reply to NormanS
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said by Anonymous_ See Profile :

i am beting ISP are using this for illegal wire tapping for the NSA
AT&T, at least, has been wiretapping for the NSA long before the likes of NeubAd and Phorm started profiling users. More likely that the profilers are using NSA technology, not the other way around.
... and Verizon, Sprint.. think Qwest was the only one who had the BALLS to stand back and say "Now wait a minute".. Look at'em now?

NormanS
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said by Anonymous_ See Profile :

i am beting ISP are using this for illegal wire tapping for the NSA
AT&T, at least, has been wiretapping for the NSA long before the likes of NeubAd and Phorm started profiling users. More likely that the profilers are using NSA technology, not the other way around.
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Anonymous_
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reply to Karl Bode
i am beting ISP are using this for illegal wire tapping for the NSA
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02
reply to MyDogHsFleas
NebuAD pays the ISP simply to store the device. Other ad arrangements also pay the ISP.

MyDogHsFleas
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Austin, TX
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reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Yep. Websites get paid the same way. Only new money is that the ISP gets mailed a check every month for sticking a deep inspection device on the network...
Who pays the ISP? The ad services, e.g. Google AdWords?


Karl Bode
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reply to MyDogHsFleas
Yep. Websites get paid the same way. Only new money is that the ISP gets mailed a check every month for sticking a deep inspection device on the network...

MyDogHsFleas
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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

To be clear, NebuAD does not "insert" ads above or on top of existing ad arrangements. They monitor users via network hardware and then present more tailored ads in the traditional fashion via existing advertising networks.

That ad-injection system (Fair Eagle) was a rogue ISP using one of their WISP ad platforms incorrectly on a wired network in Texas.
OK, thanks for the info. So the website owners get paid for running the ads, even though the ads that are run are tailored via input from the NebuAD tracking service which harvests tracking information from all your website visits. Do I have it straight?
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