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jester121

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Huh?

My first thought was "how is this good for students"? I had 10Mbps ethernet in the dorms in 1993 -- the only problem was ethernet cards cost about $200 then.

I guess students can bypass university filters and torrent their asses off, and the university doesn't get any grief from the **AAs -- AT&T gets to deal with the takedown notices.


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said by jester121 See Profile :

I guess students can bypass university filters and torrent their asses off, and the university doesn't get any grief from the **AAs -- AT&T gets to deal with the takedown notices.
I knew someone would bring that up, but in reality I dont see it being much of a problem. These are graduate students we are talking about, not 17 year olds like those who pepper this site with comments about how downloading/uploading isnt illegal. At the end of the day, I suspect MBA students likely know the difference between stealing and being professional individuals.
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bogey780

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'I had 10Mbps ethernet in the dorms in 1993 '

And it probably went back to a T-1C or a T-2. If it was a major university it might have went back to a T-3. This is backhauled to a gigabit ring. Quite a bit better.


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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

said by jester121 See Profile :

I guess students can bypass university filters and torrent their asses off, and the university doesn't get any grief from the **AAs -- AT&T gets to deal with the takedown notices.
I knew someone would bring that up, but in reality I dont see it being much of a problem. These are graduate students we are talking about, not 17 year olds like those who pepper this site with comments about how downloading/uploading isnt illegal. At the end of the day, I suspect MBA students likely know the difference between stealing and being professional individuals.
Yes, and Gov. Spitzer knew the law.


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said by rcdailey See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

said by jester121 See Profile :

I guess students can bypass university filters and torrent their asses off, and the university doesn't get any grief from the **AAs -- AT&T gets to deal with the takedown notices.
I knew someone would bring that up, but in reality I dont see it being much of a problem. These are graduate students we are talking about, not 17 year olds like those who pepper this site with comments about how downloading/uploading isnt illegal. At the end of the day, I suspect MBA students likely know the difference between stealing and being professional individuals.
Yes, and Gov. Spitzer knew the law.
Spitzer was so cheap he made the hooker take worst train to the hotel. It is funny when the Hookers said, "He's a weirdo" wanting strange sex acts. Except the last hooker, Spitzer got complaints from the hookers on his weird "requests" that cost him $5,500 each time. Spitzer got caught due to tax issues with the IRS. The IRS thought he was taking bribes or using campaign funds illegally till they tapped some phones. I bet the wife will be leaving this "weirdo" soon.
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said by rcdailey See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

said by jester121 See Profile :

I guess students can bypass university filters and torrent their asses off, and the university doesn't get any grief from the **AAs -- AT&T gets to deal with the takedown notices.
I knew someone would bring that up, but in reality I dont see it being much of a problem. These are graduate students we are talking about, not 17 year olds like those who pepper this site with comments about how downloading/uploading isnt illegal. At the end of the day, I suspect MBA students likely know the difference between stealing and being professional individuals.
Yes, and Gov. Spitzer knew the law.
There will always be exceptions. My point is that for the most part, graduate students arent going to spend their time "seeding" bit torrent (or whatever the term is the kids use these days) and stealing music.
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That's what they said about Hillary. Apparently a political stepping stone is more important than a faithful husband.
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jester121

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said by bogey780 See Profile :

'I had 10Mbps ethernet in the dorms in 1993 '

And it probably went back to a T-1C or a T-2. If it was a major university it might have went back to a T-3. This is backhauled to a gigabit ring. Quite a bit better.
Can't remember, I went to Penn State and they had pretty fat pipes even then. Of course at the time there wasn't much to do on the internet other than IRC, newsgroups, e-mail, and FTP.


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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

At the end of the day, I suspect MBA students likely know the difference between stealing and being professional individuals.
Yea, the only difference is they are professional at not getting caught hence VPN traffic.
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said by David See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

At the end of the day, I suspect MBA students likely know the difference between stealing and being professional individuals.
Yea, the only difference is they are professional at not getting caught hence VPN traffic.
Again, I need to disagree. Most people stop stealing music/software/etc after college, if they did it at all. You generally grow up and realize its not that big of a deal to spend a couple of dollars on something that you plan on using.
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said by bogey780 See Profile :

'I had 10Mbps ethernet in the dorms in 1993 '

And it probably went back to a T-1C or a T-2. If it was a major university it might have went back to a T-3. This is backhauled to a gigabit ring. Quite a bit better.
That was back when a T1 cost several thousand dollars in just port costs, so to say that what ATT is offering now is better than then is a big, "No Duh!"

I'd wager that poster is saying is that ATT offering 10Mbps connectivity to a dorm is not really all that much to be proud of since most universities have 100Mbps to the dorm room, some even have GigE, with multi-gig backbones to more than 10Mbps WAN links.

A better question is why didn't the University just wire the dorm themselves? Most students are already paying for that type of access via technology fees.
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