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|  Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China
Yesterday I called H.P. to tell them to include the Vista Operating System Recovery DVD Disk which is a $19.00 option. I got a guy who I had trouble understand but basically he told me to late as computer is about out the door...I asked if it was shipped or not as I didn't receive any shipping confirmation email. He kept skirting the question and basically said yes to it has been shipped but couldn't give me any shipping details..I asked once again to just send the DVD recovery disk with the computer and he went on to say something like call back in a week or two..
I ended my call with him as I was not getting anywhere with him and I was also pressed for time. I figured I would just order it separately after the laptop arrives...This morning I check my email and still no email from HP telling me it was shipped. I then went to the only email I have received from them since ordering it on the 4th, which was the order confirmation email....In that email they told me they would send me a shipping confirmation email and also there was a link I could check the status.
So I checked that link and sure enough it said shipped yesterday...But then to my surprise it said shipped from Shanghai, CN. So I'm thinking the reason the guy I spoke to yesterday beat around the bush is he didn't want to tell me my new computer was coming from China and wasn't here in a HP plant where they could just enclose the OS recovery DVD.
My question...Are there any notebook computers built here in The United States any longer?
BTW, it is now approx 5:30PM EST on the 11th and still no shipping confirmation email from H.P. | |
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clubs:  | Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China If it makes you feel any better my Apple PowerBook G4 was built in China.. It fell on one of the corners about 6 months ago and is fine. | |
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So to answer your questions: Nothing computer related is made in the usa anymore. | |
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1 edit | Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China said by sailor  :Thanks. Guess this is no longer the country our fathers knew. Not to be all econ-nerdy - but almost every country as it develops economically moves from agriculture > industrial production > services
We (US) are at services. It's the same way as Japan, a lot of things use to be made there, but now they're outsourcing to China because Japanese wages have gotten too high/China is developed enough to do production.
China is a very large economy, but that's mostly due to the huge population, they're still quite poor, so they're a good place for manufacturing... | |
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clubs: | Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China Unfortunately, if it was built in the U.S., you would be paying a good bit more for it.
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| Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China said by Subaru :said by PeteC2 :Unfortunately, if it was built in the U.S., you would be paying a good bit more for it. Still holds true to the euro going up vs the dollar? Absolutely. Currency has little to do with it (not nothing...but little).
The issue is the cost of doing business. I am not either "for or against" this, just stating the facts. It is tremendously less expensive to manufacture goods in China than the U.S., first, and foremost, prevailing wages, but also, lower pollution standards. These factors alone outweigh shipping costs by a wide margin.
The days of building a product in close proximity to the intended market are long gone.
Again, I am not stating anything "political"...folks want high paying jobs here...conversely folks here also want inexpensive goods...I have no simple solution to make everybody happy...
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| Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China said by PeteC2 :It is tremendously less expensive to manufacture goods in China than the U.S., first, and foremost, prevailing wages, but also, lower pollution standards. These factors alone outweigh shipping costs by a wide margin. The days of building a product in close proximity to the intended market are long gone. That was true when oil was $30 a barrel, how about now when it is near $110 a barrel? Maybe going to $200 a barrel? At some point there has to be a diminishing return (when the shipping costs outweigh the production cost reductions).
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| said by keyboards :said by PeteC2 :It is tremendously less expensive to manufacture goods in China than the U.S., first, and foremost, prevailing wages, but also, lower pollution standards. These factors alone outweigh shipping costs by a wide margin. The days of building a product in close proximity to the intended market are long gone. That was true when oil was $30 a barrel, how about now when it is near $110 a barrel? Maybe going to $200 a barrel? At some point there has to be a diminishing return (when the shipping costs outweigh the production cost reductions). There are only so many "dead dinosaurs" that can be pumped out of the earth to burn No argument there! I am only speaking of the here and now. If it was cheaper to build 'em locally? Why then they would. In today's global economy, labor costs, and local business regulations (taxes, pollution standards, etc.) still hold more sway that cost of transportation...perhpas it will change down the road...but not today.
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| Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China said by signmeuptoo :You should see the hellish conditions the workers live under there: 24 hour workdays for an entire week! No pay for months! Time in a reeducation camp if a worker complaines... Wow, you know about China more than me. When was the last time you set foot in China or was that something you heard 20 years ago? I am not trying to raise controversy but I have got to say something.
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| Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China said by signmeuptoo :I haven't been to China, yet, but I've read some about it and seen a couple documentaries, one on PBS another on some other network, I forget. I'm in China and I've been to several factories. The conditions are far from luxurious but it's nothing like what you describe above. "24 hour workdays" and "re-education camps"? Give me a break. There are definitely some Chinese factories that mistreat their employees but abuse is not the norm.
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The thing I'm seeing that companies are not seeing is that when there are no jobs here, it means there are no money to be spent on their products. This means there is no money to be made.
I don't care where a product is made. However, I do expect the product to be cheaper, substantially cheaper, than if it were made HERE. I like the Ford Fusion but I will buy the Accord because it is made here and it cost the same as the made in Mexico Fusion | |
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Ignorant protectionists? I beg to differ. Products made overseas do not necessarily mean cheap. The Ford Fusion is made in Mexico yet it cost just as much as the made in Kentucky Camry or the made in Ohio Accord. Same thing goes with some overseas made jeans.
They make some Camry's in KY? I know some Toyota model are being made inside Subaru's IN plant.
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Agreed. I have family members that look at every little thing they buy and go "Oh, it's made in China"/ (Ironically, they still buy it)
If people are that angry at us importing from another country, then they could just boycott. But what pisses me off is people who get angry at China building stuff then believes we should build everything and ship it to other countries. That's not protectionism, that's nationalism, and a dangerous kind.
And since I've said this somewhere else before and this was brought up, yeah, I'm a proud American.
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| Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China Ah, but Japan is a real friend now, so...
Anyways, glad your new system is making you happy, I share in your happiness for it! Enjoy!
I have just one comment: I am NOT a nationalist, NOT a protectionist, NOT an isolationist, or any other ist, far from it. What I AM for is freedom, civil rights, respect for sovereign nations (Taiwan), and so on... Just saying what I am for. Feeding hungry Chinese workers is a GOOD thing, and them having work is indeed a GOOD thing. But it needs to be inside fair trade with a nation that hasn't threatened us with war, which they have on numerous occasions.
»www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/04/pentag···dex.html
Actions speak louder than words, and they keep flooding bad things into our borders, and around the world. Reckless disregard for others.
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Long Island | Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China I read this thread yesterday and then decided to make sure they included them.
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2 edits | Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China They include the option to make a recovery disc, why can't they include the option to make a plain Windows install disc without any crap just as Microsoft ships it?
I'd rather (and do) download the ISO from available sources on the internet, than use a recovery disc.
My HP compaq business notebook was made in China but shipped from the US. Came with a Windows XP disc and a Driver & Application DVD. With that DVD it gives you granular control over what gets installed. you can just install the basic drivers or you can select all and get that nice fresh-from-the-factory bloat.
Why can't they do this for consumer machines? Seriously I understand all they care about is their bottom line but a buck. A fucking buck at most is what it would cost them.
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| Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China said by joako :My HP compaq business notebook was made in China but shipped from the US. Came with a Windows XP disc and a Driver & Application DVD. With that DVD it gives you granular control over what gets installed. you can just install the basic drivers or you can select all and get that nice fresh-from-the-factory bloat. Why can't they do this for consumer machines? Seriously I understand all they care about is their bottom line but a buck. A fucking buck at most is what it would cost them. When I bought my HP zx5000 series laptop a few years ago, it came with a full set of recovery discs. These included a normal XP Home install disc, driver's disc, applications disc, and add on software.
I loved it because if I wanted to redo my system, I could do so without all the bloatware.
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Long Island | Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China Well you see, I'm not very computer savvy at all. Can you give me instructions how to disable the recovery partition you mentioned. Like step-by-step instructions?
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| There was a report on trade with China on NPR a few months ago. The person being interviewed said that something like 96% of the worlds laptops are manufactured in 5 factories in one providence in China (I forgot exactly where he said they were).
I ordered a HP laptop a couple of years ago and they were very clear and open that it was being manufactured in China. I was very impressed at the time with the communication from emailing me when assembly started to finish and shipping with tracking number. And Yes, I got it from China faster than many businesses can ship who are in the US.
Interestingly I ordered some industrial network connectors from Germany last month. It took the US distributor two weeks to get ordering info and pricing. They said to expect 3-4 weeks for shipping. It is now over four weeks and I still don't have them. My laptop was built and delivered in two weeks. And people don't understand why China gets so much business!  | |
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| Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China said by robbin :There was a report on trade with China on NPR a few months ago. The person being interviewed said that something like 96% of the worlds laptops are manufactured in 5 factories in one providence in China (I forgot exactly where he said they were). I think it's Guangdong province. | |
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| I don't think they care if you know they ship from China or not, I just think the CSR probably in India since you said he had trouble understanding you, had no idea how to tell you that they couldn't put the disc in the box.
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| Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China said by lew_jean :I order my Wife a Dell Latitude for Xmas and it was shipped from the states NOT CHINA Yeah, mine shipped from Nevada. However my guess that is the location of their storage warehouse not, some manufacturing facility. From what I have read, Dell laptops are made in Malaysia. | |
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| Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China Some Dell computers are produced overseas. If you look at Dell's website - »www.dell.com/content/topics/glob···n&s=corp - here are pictures of all their manufactuing locations. Note the 3 in the United States. | |
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1 edit | Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China My first laptop, that I still have and use even though it is quite a number of years old, is a Dell Inspiron 2650 and I can remember it had stamped on the box it came in...Product of Taiwan.
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4 edits | Well I still haven't received the HP Shipping confirmation email that they said they would send when I received the one and only email I received moments after I placed my order online. But this morning, Fed Ex was at my door with it. Fast shipping coming from China..Last night when I checked Fed Ex website for a delivery status update it said it had left Anchorage, Alaska.
The from return label on the upper part of the box says to me from:
HP Home and Home Office Store
5510 E Holmes Rd
Memphis, Tn
but then the larger label towards the bottom of the box says to me from:
Sunny Wang ( yep, sunny wang )
QUANTA/HP
Rong Xin Road
Shanghai Songjjang Export & Proc
Shanghai CN
And the serial # does start with CN
Again, I have no problem with it being built there and am looking forward to using it. I just wish HP would have sent me another email telling me that they shipped it and that the CSR would have been a bit more informed about things. But oh well, it came with free shipping and I used a coupon code that was good for $400.00 off so I am happy it is here..I just won't be able to turn it on and check it out until this evening or tomorrow..
The replies posted was an interesting read..Thanks!
And I had posted about the $400.00 Off coupon they had in the Hot Deals forum which is now expired but here is the site I found out about the $400.00 coupon code. They seem to always have deals and coupons codes for all brands.
»www.xpbargains.com
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HP Pavilion dv9700t customizable Notebook PC
Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)
Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Processor T7250 (2.00 GHz, 2 MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
17.0" WXGA+ High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1440 x 900)
2GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
FREE Upgrade to HP Imprint Finish (Radiance) + Webcam + Microphone
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240GB 7200RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (120GB x 2)
Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer
No TV Tuner w/remote control
High Capacity 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Microsoft(R) Works 9.0
HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
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| Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China There are a few things that are still Made in America that I have been stocking up on lately and their dimension's are 5.56MM x 45MM, 7.62MM x 51MM, and .30 Caliber (.30-06).
The devices that these things fit into are also Made in America.
The World is going to He*l in a hand basket and I thought it would be a good time to stock up on these American made items while I still can in case things change after the 2008 Elections that may prevent me from doing so in the future. | |
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clubs: | Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China Woa! That's, well, gee, I don't know how to respond. But you and I must be on the opposite sides of the political spectrum I guess. | |
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1 edit | Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China Hardcore right-wing Ronald Reagan Republican, but not a Neo-con. I hate Neo-cons because they have stole my party.
Don't worry about the other stuff though because I'm not greedy and will share if the SHTF. If you don't feel that you could shoulder one and do the deed then you can stand behind me and pass me fresh magazines.
Not only will I stand up for what I believe in, I will stand up for you too.
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They are just tools. They can't do anything all by themself.
Have you ever been in the middle of a project and needed a tool and you did not have it?
You have to make do with what you have or go and hunt up the tool that you need at the store and they might not have it when you need it. I would rather have a full set of tools and maybe have a few that I might not never need then to need a tool and not have it. | |
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Franklin, KY | If you do make your own Recovery Discs then make sure not to use cheap DVDs and store them in a cool place out of the light and put them into a real jewel case. | |
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clubs: | Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China Now that is good advise. I have had both sunlight AND water damage CDs in the past, I've been told it shouldn't happen, but it did... | |
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2 edits | Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China Yes, one would would want to make sure that they were not stored in a damp place.
I have made compact discs that have turned milky over time and some have had the data layer flake off, but I don't think it can flake off on a DVD because of how they are made.
I gave up on cheap CDs a long time ago. I won't use any that don't cost at least $.75 each and they must be Made in Japan. Taiyo Yuden recordable DVD and CD media is all that I will use. | |
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| said by Airwolf7 :If you do make your own Recovery Discs then make sure not to use cheap DVDs and store them in a cool place out of the light and put them into a real jewel case. I turned the laptop on for the first time about an hour ago..I can't get over how quiet it is..And the screen is just gorgeous...Vista sure is different and will take some time to get use to but that I have...
They ( H.P.) sure do add a lot of stuff I see...A Yahoo toolbar and there is a eBay icon on my desktop and a program Aim 6..I never use instant messages but oh well, I will read about stuff and then all that added fluff will be gone.
But first..
As I'm typing this I am about to make my recovery disk. I started the first process which it says is "copying files" it is at the 60% at this very moment..I had a full spindle of unopened Maxwell DVD-R 4.7GB 16x 120 min so I opened it up and that is what I will be using in a few minutes..I hope they will be good enough..
I will for sure keep them in a cool place. Out of sunlight and in jewel cases..
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said by sailor :Vista sure is different and will take some time to get use to but that I have... It seems that Microsoft moved a lot of things around just for the sake of moving them around.
You will really love the "User Account Control". It will ask you if you really meant to do something and you will think to yourself "No, I really didn't mean to click on that button, I must be stupid".
said by sailor :They ( H.P.) sure do add a lot of stuff I see...A Yahoo toolbar and there is a eBay icon on my desktop and a program Aim 6..I never use instant messages but oh well, I will read about stuff and then all that added fluff will be gone. Start> Control Panel> Programs and Features will be your friend. You can just delete the Ebay icon.
said by sailor :As I'm typing this I am about to make my recovery disk. I started the first process which it says is "copying files" it is at the 60% at this very moment..I had a full spindle of unopened Maxwell DVD-R 4.7GB 16x 120 min so I opened it up and that is what I will be using in a few minutes..I hope they will be good enough.. Those Maxell DVDs will probably be just fine as long as you store them carefully. I'm not familiar with those Maxell DVDs though.
I use "Maxell CD-R Pro" 10 Pack CD-Recordable Discs (Maxells part #648410) and they are in my opinion they best recordable Compact Discs that can be bought in a retail store. These are Made in Japan by Tayio Yuden.
I rarely record anything on DVD and I use Light Scribe DVDs because I like to burn pretty pictures on them on the label side.
I don't think that anybody makes good Light Scribe discs.
said by sailor :I will for sure keep them in a cool place. Out of sunlight and in jewel cases.. Also make sure that you keep them in a place that is not damp and don't get your fingerprints on them because the oils can break down the discs.
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You might want to look into making ISO images of your Recovery Discs when you are done burning them as you can save these ISO images to a portable hard drive or another computer in case you later have problems with your Recovery Discs. You can use these ISO images to burn new Recovery Discs at a later time.
Your Recovery Discs Creator program might give you the option to make ISO images. Some of these programs do give you this option and you can make the Recovery Discs first then also make the ISO images. You can only use the Recovery Discs Creator program to make the Recovery Discs one time.
I have Recovery Disc ISO images for hundreds of different computers backed up on my server for my customers and for new customers that may not have their Recovery Discs that have corrupted/damaged hard drives.
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Enjoy your new computer. You got a nice one for a good price.
Vista is not really so bad and you will get used to it after awhile.
Your computer may already have Vista SP1 and it really does make things run better than before SP1 came out.
If you don't have SP1 yet you should be getting it before to long through Windows Updates.
I have it on all of my Vista computers now and it makes me feel a lot better about Windows Vista.
There will be some days that you will want to throw your laptop out of the window, but you will get through those days. | |
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clubs: | Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China why not just buy Tayio Yuden discs without having another brand on it? | |
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1 edit | Laptop is running great and Casino Royale Blu Ray was just terrific.
Thanks for all the good advice I received from many here! | |
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