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sailor
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Re: Brand New H.P. Laptop...Just left China

Well you see, I'm not very computer savvy at all. Can you give me instructions how to disable the recovery partition you mentioned. Like step-by-step instructions?
Thanks.


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reply to sailor
Sure:

1. Log on as administrator or as a member of the Administrators group.
2. Click Start, click Run, type compmgmt.msc, and then click OK.
3. In the console tree, click Disk Management. The Disk Management window appears. Your disks and volumes appear in a graphical view and list view.
4. Select the "Recovery Partition" on Disk 0 and right click.
5. Click on the option "Change Drive Letter and Paths".
6. Click on "Remove" and press "Yes" on the promt.

The drive shouldn't show up on My Computer and you shouldn't be able to access it through Vista now. You also wont be able to make recovery disks or use the recovery option through HP's maintenance GUI. However, should you choose to restore via the partition, just press F12 during start up, it will access the recovery partition normally.

If you reinstall a new OS or recover, you'd have to hide it again since it will be detected during setup.


sailor
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  Thanks a lot.
I appreciate your taking the time to list those things for me.


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said by sailor See Profile :

Thanks.
Guess this is no longer the country our fathers knew.
Not to be all econ-nerdy - but almost every country as it develops economically moves from agriculture > industrial production > services

We (US) are at services. It's the same way as Japan, a lot of things use to be made there, but now they're outsourcing to China because Japanese wages have gotten too high/China is developed enough to do production.

China is a very large economy, but that's mostly due to the huge population, they're still quite poor, so they're a good place for manufacturing...

smith_in_co

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reply to sailor
Most if not all Compaq/HP laptops have been built in china since at least 2005 if the SN starts witn CNF it was built in China


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9 out of 10 computer/electronic gadgets will be made in China... (95% of the stuffs in Newegg is coming from China)


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said by sailor See Profile :

I read this thread yesterday and then decided to make sure they included them.

»[Rant] HP Laptop + Vista + Recovery DVD
They include the option to make a recovery disc, why can't they include the option to make a plain Windows install disc without any crap just as Microsoft ships it?

I'd rather (and do) download the ISO from available sources on the internet, than use a recovery disc.

My HP compaq business notebook was made in China but shipped from the US. Came with a Windows XP disc and a Driver & Application DVD. With that DVD it gives you granular control over what gets installed. you can just install the basic drivers or you can select all and get that nice fresh-from-the-factory bloat.

Why can't they do this for consumer machines? Seriously I understand all they care about is their bottom line but a buck. A fucking buck at most is what it would cost them.
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There was a report on trade with China on NPR a few months ago. The person being interviewed said that something like 96% of the worlds laptops are manufactured in 5 factories in one providence in China (I forgot exactly where he said they were).

I ordered a HP laptop a couple of years ago and they were very clear and open that it was being manufactured in China. I was very impressed at the time with the communication from emailing me when assembly started to finish and shipping with tracking number. And Yes, I got it from China faster than many businesses can ship who are in the US.

Interestingly I ordered some industrial network connectors from Germany last month. It took the US distributor two weeks to get ordering info and pricing. They said to expect 3-4 weeks for shipping. It is now over four weeks and I still don't have them. My laptop was built and delivered in two weeks. And people don't understand why China gets so much business!


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said by robbin See Profile :

There was a report on trade with China on NPR a few months ago. The person being interviewed said that something like 96% of the worlds laptops are manufactured in 5 factories in one providence in China (I forgot exactly where he said they were).
I think it's Guangdong province.


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said by Subaru See Profile :

said by PeteC2 See Profile :

Unfortunately, if it was built in the U.S., you would be paying a good bit more for it.
Still holds true to the euro going up vs the dollar?
Absolutely. Currency has little to do with it (not nothing...but little).

The issue is the cost of doing business. I am not either "for or against" this, just stating the facts. It is tremendously less expensive to manufacture goods in China than the U.S., first, and foremost, prevailing wages, but also, lower pollution standards. These factors alone outweigh shipping costs by a wide margin.

The days of building a product in close proximity to the intended market are long gone.

Again, I am not stating anything "political"...folks want high paying jobs here...conversely folks here also want inexpensive goods...I have no simple solution to make everybody happy...
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said by joako See Profile :

My HP compaq business notebook was made in China but shipped from the US. Came with a Windows XP disc and a Driver & Application DVD. With that DVD it gives you granular control over what gets installed. you can just install the basic drivers or you can select all and get that nice fresh-from-the-factory bloat.

Why can't they do this for consumer machines? Seriously I understand all they care about is their bottom line but a buck. A fucking buck at most is what it would cost them.
When I bought my HP zx5000 series laptop a few years ago, it came with a full set of recovery discs. These included a normal XP Home install disc, driver's disc, applications disc, and add on software.

I loved it because if I wanted to redo my system, I could do so without all the bloatware.
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reply to sailor
I don't think they care if you know they ship from China or not, I just think the CSR probably in India since you said he had trouble understanding you, had no idea how to tell you that they couldn't put the disc in the box.

Only PC's built in North America by HP are the blackbirds and they are built in Canada.
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lew_jean

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reply to sailor
I order my Wife a Dell Latitude for Xmas and it was shipped from the states NOT CHINA


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Ignorant protectionists? I beg to differ. Products made overseas do not necessarily mean cheap. The Ford Fusion is made in Mexico yet it cost just as much as the made in Kentucky Camry or the made in Ohio Accord. Same thing goes with some overseas made jeans.

The thing I'm seeing that companies are not seeing is that when there are no jobs here, it means there are no money to be spent on their products. This means there is no money to be made.

I don't care where a product is made. However, I do expect the product to be cheaper, substantially cheaper, than if it were made HERE. I like the Ford Fusion but I will buy the Accord because it is made here and it cost the same as the made in Mexico Fusion


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said by Yahoooola :

Ignorant protectionists? I beg to differ. Products made overseas do not necessarily mean cheap. The Ford Fusion is made in Mexico yet it cost just as much as the made in Kentucky Camry or the made in Ohio Accord. Same thing goes with some overseas made jeans.

They make some Camry's in KY? I know some Toyota model are being made inside Subaru's IN plant.
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said by PeteC2 See Profile :

It is tremendously less expensive to manufacture goods in China than the U.S., first, and foremost, prevailing wages, but also, lower pollution standards. These factors alone outweigh shipping costs by a wide margin.

The days of building a product in close proximity to the intended market are long gone.
That was true when oil was $30 a barrel, how about now when it is near $110 a barrel? Maybe going to $200 a barrel? At some point there has to be a diminishing return (when the shipping costs outweigh the production cost reductions).

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said by lew_jean See Profile :

I order my Wife a Dell Latitude for Xmas and it was shipped from the states NOT CHINA
Yeah, mine shipped from Nevada. However my guess that is the location of their storage warehouse not, some manufacturing facility. From what I have read, Dell laptops are made in Malaysia.


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reply to sailor
dell is definitely produced overseas and shipped top their warehouses here. thats how they can overnight practically any order for a reasonable price.

also Toyota's had a US production plant in lexington since 1988, which uncoincidentally is when their sales started going way up here.
to add to Toyota...Honda has a dozen production plants across US and Canada producing almost every aspect of their US-sold cars.

most mainstream cars sold here ARE mainstream b/c theyre made here for many reasons. only a few of the major car MFGs with strong footholds in the US dont have major assembly or production plants in North America. everyone from Mercedes to Subaru has plants here.

one of the bigger companies without a NA plant is VW, and reports show they're seriously considering investing in a US plant and projects it would increase their US sales from 330k in 2007 to 1 million by 2018.
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sailor
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Well I still haven't received the HP Shipping confirmation email that they said they would send when I received the one and only email I received moments after I placed my order online. But this morning, Fed Ex was at my door with it. Fast shipping coming from China..Last night when I checked Fed Ex website for a delivery status update it said it had left Anchorage, Alaska.

The from return label on the upper part of the box says to me from:

HP Home and Home Office Store
5510 E Holmes Rd
Memphis, Tn

but then the larger label towards the bottom of the box says to me from:

Sunny Wang ( yep, sunny wang )
QUANTA/HP
Rong Xin Road
Shanghai Songjjang Export & Proc
Shanghai CN

And the serial # does start with CN

Again, I have no problem with it being built there and am looking forward to using it. I just wish HP would have sent me another email telling me that they shipped it and that the CSR would have been a bit more informed about things. But oh well, it came with free shipping and I used a coupon code that was good for $400.00 off so I am happy it is here..I just won't be able to turn it on and check it out until this evening or tomorrow..

The replies posted was an interesting read..Thanks!

And I had posted about the $400.00 Off coupon they had in the Hot Deals forum which is now expired but here is the site I found out about the $400.00 coupon code. They seem to always have deals and coupons codes for all brands.

»www.xpbargains.com

Edited to add specs:

HP Pavilion dv9700t customizable Notebook PC


Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)

Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Processor T7250 (2.00 GHz, 2 MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)

17.0" WXGA+ High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1440 x 900)

2GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)

256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS

FREE Upgrade to HP Imprint Finish (Radiance) + Webcam + Microphone

Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN Network Connection

240GB 7200RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (120GB x 2)

Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer

No TV Tuner w/remote control

High Capacity 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

Microsoft(R) Works 9.0

HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

$1573.99 Sub-Total
-400.00 Coupon Code
___________
$1,173.99
$ 101.26 N.Y Sales Tax
__________
$1,275.25 Total

Instant discounts you received:
$400.00 Coupon NB0400


Estimated ship date:
Your customized HP Pavilion dv9700t customizable Notebook PC will be
built by March 12, 2008


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reply to sailor
pretty good price for that.
closest thing circuitcity has is »www.circuitcity.com/ssm/HP-Pavil···etail.do
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