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MagMan
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1 edit | (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution Is anyone else having problems sending mail tonight I am receiving these error messages.
Are there sever problems somewhere because I have not changed any my account settings. Thanks!
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wings10
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South Elgin, IL | Re: (Problem) Sending Mail No. But I use Windows Mail for my ATT e-mail. Did you go ahead and check your settings?
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MagMan
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Westlake, OH | Re: (Problem) Sending Mail Settings look fine I did nothing to them and I have no other problems. | |
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MagMan
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| Re: (Problem) Sending Mail said by lev  :After a couple of calls with my ex-girlfriend and this morning, I can tell you the solution. Yesterday, the smtp.att.yahoo.com servers began enforcing that the authenticated SMTP sender must match the PRECISE sub-account account that you're trying to send with. This is the probable final result of » Strange SMTP problems. rearing its head. I did what it said in that thread I have two addresses one default main one that I used when I signed up 5 yrs ago,my second sub account I went through the procedure and verified my sub-account everything is fine with that account.But my main default account that I have been using for five years I still can not send anything without the error messages appearing.What gives with this crap this sucks,why can I not send anything with with main address that I have been using for years??
All my account information is correct so what gives?
Or should I post this in direct?
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lev
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clubs:  | Re: (Problem) Sending Mail Each individual account must use its own ameritech/sbcglobal/att.net account name for SMTP authentication. What are you using as your mail client? | |
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MagMan
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2 edits | Re: (Problem) Sending Mail Thunderbird.
I have not changed any settings.
The two accounts have the sbcglobal/att.net account name. | |
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lev
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clubs: | Re: (Problem) Sending Mail Thunderbird will try to use a single SMTP server for all your mail. If you're authenticating SMTP for account1@sbcglobal.net with account2@sbcglobal.net, it won't work anymore. | |
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MagMan
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| Re: (Problem) Sending Mail said by lev :Thunderbird will try to use a single SMTP server for all your mail. If you're authenticating SMTP for account1@sbcglobal.net with account2@sbcglobal.net, it won't work anymore. Ok! How do I solve that problem than please explain? Simply would be nice. Thanks
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join:2001-12-01
Springfield, MO
| said by lev :Thunderbird will try to use a single SMTP server for all your mail. If you're authenticating SMTP for account1@sbcglobal.net with account2@sbcglobal.net, it won't work anymore. So you are saying that you can not authenticate other multiple non sbc accounts with only one sbc account? You can not enter the same email address and password to SMTP authenticate multiple non sbc account anymore? in case I was not clear. If that is the case what kind of BS is this? | |
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lev
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| said by rjfortyfive :So you are saying that you can not authenticate other multiple non sbc accounts with only one sbc account? You can not enter the same email address and password to SMTP authenticate multiple non sbc account anymore? in case I was not clear. If that is the case what kind of BS is this? Yes, I am saying because of the changes they made, you can not authenticate with a different account name than you're using to send with.
I don't know what kind of BS it is, or that's it's necessarily BS. What we have here, is a failure to communicate, and it's not the first time that's happened. If they're going to make a change like this, which is going to be very subtle, against the way some software like Tunderbird is designed, etc, then they have to think about the consequences, and implement it with some warning.
The idea itself isn't necessarily BS, and probably comes from a desire to significantly reduce the amount of spam generated from their servers.
MagMan is a casualty of this. Were I there, or nwrickert, we could solve his problem in under 2 minutes.
Instead, we have a situation where a user is frustrated, and no amount of explaining the situation has, to date, given him the right solution. I'm going to try to find the time to go through the steps later on today and put them into a FAQ type format.
If that doesn't solve the problem, maybe someone would be willing to use VNC to fix his problem, but that opens a whole other can of worms. | |
| | | robinth
join:2003-01-09
Chicago, IL
| said by lev :Yesterday, the smtp.att.yahoo.com servers began enforcing that the authenticated SMTP sender must match the PRECISE sub-account account that you're trying to send with. There are some interesting little oddities in the way this has been implemented. If a non-matching ATT Yahoo "from" address hits the ATT Yahoo SMTP server, it is bounced with the error message that was posted. BUT, if the "from" address is not in the ATT domain hierarchy (ameritech, sbcglobal, etc.) the message is sent normally.
Perhaps they will catch on to this eventually. I use a personal domain email address as a from, and I haven't had any problem so far, but will apparently have to make some adjustments if the ATT SMTP servers are further restricted. | |
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nwrickert
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| Re: (Problem) Sending Mail If a non-matching ATT Yahoo "from" address hits the ATT Yahoo SMTP server, it is bounced with the error message that was posted. BUT, if the "from" address is not in the ATT domain hierarchy (ameritech, sbcglobal, etc.) the message is sent normally. This disparity is likely intentional.
I am guessing that the aim is to extend their use of Domain Keys header signatures, to authenticate senders. They had been previously doing this for yahoo senders, and these changes will allow them to do it for sbcglobal, etc, senders. They can't authenticate foreign domains over which they have no control, so they don't bother to try and instead omit the domain keys signature in that case.
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| | | | | Somarius
join:2008-03-19
| Re: (Problem) Sending Mail Error 553
Recently Yahoo found a Security Hole on their servers
Message says:
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The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's e-mail address. The sender's e-mail address was ***********. Subject 'letter', Account: 'pop.att.yahoo.com', Server: 'smtp.att.yahoo.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '553 From: address not verified
»help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/edit/a···dex.html,
Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 553, Error Number: 0x800CCC78
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How To Fix this?..
You need to verify your email address to be able to send out mails, and yahoo is no using port 25 is using port 465 through a SSL connection.. so if u have an ATT account.. your outgoing should be smtp.att.yahoo.com
ok, now you need to sign in on webmail, go to "Mail Options", Then go to Account, Click on "add or edit an account", then click on "Add",
and you'll have:
*Step 1: Enter Account Name
Please enter a name for this account. This name will only be used for display purposes.
Just type "Test", you need it just to send the verification mail, Continue
*Step 2: Enter Email Address
Name: just type your name here --------------
Email: ***type an alternate email to be able to receive the verification code,***---
Continue.
*Step 3 Setup Mail Server
You need to SKIP this step
*last step will send the verification email
ok, now sign in on your alternate email open yahoo message
, copy the verification code, lick on yahoo link, paste and verify, that basically it, worked for me.
Hopefully will work for y'all
like i said its a Yahoo security hole, not AT&T Issue, sad thing is , there is no ETR, as far as i know, yahoo is working on it. im gonna try and digg for a ETR.
If this doesn't work contact yahoo 1-408-349-1472
its either Free or fee Based
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JTBidder
@pacbell.net | Re: (Problem) Sending Mail Thank you. Your steps for setting up alternate email addresses through the yahoo mail site did the trick. I can send emails again!!! | |
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WaukMan
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Waukesha, WI
·AT&T Midwest
| I too have been hit by this (or I should say my wife was). I ran through the steps and it did seem to resolve the problem. Not sure how exactly but it seems clear that the yahoo smtp server is not only validating the username and password used to login to the smtp server but it wants the from address to be a 'valid' address for the account. Seems overkill to me. | |
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jsinaiko
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·AT&T Midwest
| Re: (Problem) Sending Mail Didn't you hear the recording while on hold for 45 minutes?
IT'S FOR YOUR PROTECTION! So quit yer yapping or Ma Bell will show up at your house with a nuke to protect you even more!
Seriously, overkill seems an appropriate way to put it. but I also suspect that the implementation was botched too. Why didn't they send out an email to everyone? Why is the verification area of the webmail options interface so deep in the system and hard to find?
It's all well and good to try and tighten up the network, but it often helps if one bothers to inform the end users. 
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| said by robinth :BUT, if the "from" address is not in the ATT domain hierarchy (ameritech, sbcglobal, etc.) the message is sent normally. That has not been my experience. All email sent from my domain via ATTYahoo! servers (smtp.att.yahoo.com) was rejected. I have to use my webhost's SMTP to send business email.
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jgombos
join:2003-05-19
Fort Wayne, IN
| said by robinth :BUT, if the "from" address is not in the ATT domain hierarchy (ameritech, sbcglobal, etc.) the message is sent normally. That's not entirely accurate in my case. I never use my SBC-issued email address in the FROM field.. it's always a disposable (spamgourmet address) or what I'll call a vanity email address (like myfirstname@mysurname.name). For the first couple weeks since the problem struck, my outbound mail would bounce the first couple times.. and after ~4-5 resends, the SMTP server would eventually accept it.
And in the past couple days, I'm seeing that I cannot even resend to get around it. So the results are not even consistent, which is the worst possible case.
It's way too inconvenient to login to a webpage and register a new email address for every one-time-use disposable email address I craft. I'm changing email providers, BTW.
I really need an SMTP provider I can trust. Suggestions?
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emarsh
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Leonard, MI | Also just started having the same problem with my other 2 email addresses on all my computers (3). Primary address sends fine, getting error message and can't send on other addresses. | |
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nwrickert
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| Re: (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution I use webmail, so not affected.
However, when configuring thunderbird (the account settings), there should be an "advanced" button where you can specify multiple SMTP server definitions. Then you can select which applies to a particular account.
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MagMan
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| Re: (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution said by nwrickert :I use webmail, so not affected. However, when configuring thunderbird (the account settings), there should be an "advanced" button where you can specify multiple SMTP server definitions. Then you can select which applies to a particular account. Are you talking about this because it is the only advanced button that I see.Or are you talking about this?
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nwrickert
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| Re: (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution Yes, you would have to click the "Add" button, and define additional SMTP servers.
If I remember correctly, the name listed there is the local name you use for the server. You could use different names, but the same actual server (I think). Then set the authentication credentials differently.
Finally, having defined several SMTP servers, you can set which to use for each account. | |
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MagMan
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Westlake, OH | Re: (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution Sorry that does not work either.  | |
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nwrickert
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| Re: (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution I just setup accounts on thunderbird to test this. It worked fine.
I added two smtp servers, with smtp.att.yahoo.com the server, and the name the email address with which I authenticate.
Then, while in accounts, select the account name, and select which smtp server for that account.
When sending, I select the appropriate "from:" address, and it is sent via the correct smtp server as selected for that account.
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MagMan
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Westlake, OH | Re: (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution I have added three more than I already had and I still get the same error messages. | |
| reacttech
join:2003-05-05
Chicago, IL | I am also having same issue just noticed it today though,can't send any outgoing,incoming is fine.I also haven't changed a thing,same 1 account @ameritech.net. | |
| reacttech
join:2003-05-05
Chicago, IL
| Not sure MagMan if problem was resolved,but I solved mine,I think,by simply adding my email address as my Account Name for both Seamonkey And Thunderbird,which I use,I also had to move my email address over 1 space to the left under Account Settings,for "Email Address" field,then added my email address above that for "Your Name" field. | |
| | rjfortyfive
join:2001-12-01
Springfield, MO
| I am having this problem with Outlook and not Thunderbird. I have 3 non sbc accounts, 2 of which I have managed to get to work just fine using a SBC account to authenticate. The 3rd one works but the error message that has been posted here keeps coming up over and over if Outlook is open, even though it is set up the same as the other 2 accounts. Hoping they get it resolved soon. | |
| rjfortyfive
join:2001-12-01
Springfield, MO | Ok, update: I had 3 accounts that had this problem yesterday. Today I have managed to solve it on 2 of them but one of the non sbc accounts still gives an error every time you send email from it. | |
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2 edits | Re: (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution For reference, if you need to use a different SMTP server than what the ATTYahoos provide:
Go to »helpme.att.net/servabuse.php
Under "Abuse Type" select self-flaggelation.
Uh..wait, no, that's not right...
Under "Abuse Type" select **Opt Out Port 25.
Under "Abuse Occurred In" select Manage My Account.
Fill in the rest of the form using the primary account information. You don't need to put anything in the textbox. Send it on it's merry way.
The outbound mail filter should magically disappear within 48 hours, sometimes immediately.
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nwrickert
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Geneva, IL | Re: (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution Glad you got it working. | |
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MagMan
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| Re: (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution said by nwrickert :Glad you got it working. Yes and thank you to nwrickert for your help.
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join:2000-07-24
Plainfield, IL
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| Re: (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution I was initially frustrated with this change. A real PIA....
But I found this link extremely helpful....
»help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/o···-07.html
It explains step by step how verify your other addresses without going through setting individual outgoing smtp or opting out of port 25 block. Just make you are using the classic yahoo mail interface. The new interface does not have it built yet. Go figure! | |
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myrddin97
join:2004-09-28
Edwardsville, IL
| A couple of our clients have been having similar issues sending mail since last week. Today, we were able to get the following information from ATT as a backup until the normal smtp.att.yahoo.com port 465 SSL connection works again. Sorry if it's already been posted, but I wasn't able to find this in my earlier searches.
Outgoing server: smtpauth.sbcglobal.net
Outgoing server port: 25 does not require SSL secured connection
Outgoing server requires authentication
Log on using *@sbcglobal.net (*@att.net) with password | |
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Steve McGarrett
@sbcglobal.net
| Easy solution: replace att with mail in server name, thus:
smtp.mail.yahoo.com
Don't change anything else. Works fine with port 465, swbell.net, sbcglobal.net, att.com, etc. accounts.
AT&T uses akamai to load balance smtp.att.yahoo.com. Some physical machines started having this problem last week, others were OK. By this morning, all machines seemed to have this problem. By this evening, some machines have had the problem fixed, others not. Meantime, smtp.mail.yahoo.com has worked fine all day.
And, no, AT&T doesn't do anything for *OUR* protection, it is for AT&T's protection^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hfit.
Aloha,
McGarrett | |
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Joony
join:2001-12-08
Skokie, IL
| After having some frustrating non working SMTP server issues, I finally came here to look up what was wrong.
All I did was change my sbcglobal SMTP server to the new attyahoo one, and logged into account management and added both my gmail and school mail, changed the port from Apple Mail, and wala, I could send mail again!
Woooo. | |
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JohnnyBob
join:2006-03-23
Mount Vernon, IL
| Me too. I just noticed this yesterday. Here's the error message I get below. If I send the email repeatedly, it goes through sometimes, maybe 1 time in 5-10.
Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Subject 'Mt Vernon phone numbers, 2008', Account: '-JRM-', Server: 'smtp.att.yahoo.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 465, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
I don't need to use AT&T/Yahoo email, so will kill it, along with everything else related to their buggy, customer-unfriendly system. | |
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timot
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| I've also been having the same troubles sending work e-mail from my home computer using apple mail. I get the standard error message:
From: address not verified; see »help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/o···-07.html
I have done the following:
1. Added work e-mail as a verified e-mail address on my sbc/yahoo e-mail account.
2. Set the outgoing mail preferences to
SMTP Server: smpt.att.yahoo.com (I've tried lots of variations here)
Port: 465
Use SSL
Password authentication
User Name ***@sbcglobal.net
Password *****
3. Wrote to tech support. They suggested something about opting me out of a port 25 filter to let me send e-mail to non-att/yahoo servers. I can't figure out if this could be any help or not. The work e-mail runs off an exchange server, and demands I route messages through somebody else's outgoing mail server (usually the ISP's). Any ideas?
I am now able to send mail about 1 time in 10. Sometimes I'll be able to send a whole bunch of e-mails in a row without trouble, but then I'll go for hours without being able to send anything.
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| mcurry
join:2001-07-08
Willimantic, CT
| I've read through this thread and all of the solutions offered, but I haven't come across my precise situation, so I'm checking to see if anyone has suggestions to offer.
I'm a legacy DSL client who was with SNET, which was then bought by SBC, and I never switched over to SCB Yahoo! DSL (or the current AT&T YAhoo! DSL). I don't actually use my ****@snet.net email address for anything, but I'd been sending outgoing email for my long-term email account on a third-party server via smtp.snet.net. Until last night, that is, when it suddenly stopped working.
Since I'm legacy, I'm not on AT&T Yahoo! DSL, and therefore Yahoo! doesn't recognize my ****@snet address as a valid one, meaning I can't log in and verify an address. Am I therefore just pretty much screwed as far as sending outgoing mail via any of AT&T's current smtp servers? My login/password still works at the AT&T webmail site. | |
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computerman2
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join:2002-04-20
Rockwood, MI
·AT&T Midwest
| Problem Sending mail with att yahoo again, tried all the solutions i found in this tread, no help, besides calling support yet, anyways the error message is this
Task 'pop.att.yahoo.com - Sending' reported error (0x800CCC7D) : 'Your outgoing (SMTP) server does not support SSL-secured connections. If SSL-secured connections have worked in the past, contact your server administrator or Internet service provider (ISP).'
I don't get it, only changes in the PC are.
Windows Vista Home Premium-32bit
Outlook 2003 Service Pack 3 32bit
Windows Live Onecare
used to work fine, i don't know what the heck to do at all now, if it's a WIndows Live Onecare issue, att/yahoo issue, or Outlook 2003, or Windows Vista--Any help appreciated | |
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nwrickert
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Geneva, IL | Re: (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution I just tested this using Thunderbird. My first attempt failed with an error (could not connect to server). The second attempt was successful. | |
| | | computerman2
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Rockwood, MI
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: (Problem) Sending Mail... and the solution been trying all day, nothing successul on my end at all, no matter what i do. One simple email wanted to send eariler, this is my main email, and one i use the most, ended up sending mail with my hotmail addy finally, til i figure out why att yahoo mail is acting like this | |
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,but is there anyone else that has any other info on this.Because at the moment I do not know what to do to fix this.
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