MagMan
Life is simpler when you tell the truth.
Premium
join:2003-10-01
Westlake, OH
 ·AT&T Midwest
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to MagMan
Re: (Problem) Sending Mail
Well can't figure this one out for the life of me.I can verify my second e-mail account but can not my default account per there instructions here.
»help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/o···-07.html
Why does stuff like this have to be like a Chinese fire drill thought it was cookies but it is not.When I go to verify my main account I get this.
Now what?
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lev
Napoleon is always right
Premium,Ex-mod 2002-08
join:2001-05-30
Chicago, IL
clubs: 
·AT&T Midwest
| After a couple of calls with my ex-girlfriend and this morning, I can tell you the solution.
Yesterday, the smtp.att.yahoo.com servers began enforcing that the authenticated SMTP sender must match the PRECISE sub-account account that you're trying to send with.
This is the probable final result of »Strange SMTP problems. rearing its head. |
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MagMan
Life is simpler when you tell the truth.
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join:2003-10-01
Westlake, OH
·AT&T Midwest
·AT&T Midwest
| said by lev  :After a couple of calls with my ex-girlfriend and this morning, I can tell you the solution. Yesterday, the smtp.att.yahoo.com servers began enforcing that the authenticated SMTP sender must match the PRECISE sub-account account that you're trying to send with. This is the probable final result of » Strange SMTP problems. rearing its head. I did what it said in that thread I have two addresses one default main one that I used when I signed up 5 yrs ago,my second sub account I went through the procedure and verified my sub-account everything is fine with that account.But my main default account that I have been using for five years I still can not send anything without the error messages appearing.What gives with this crap this sucks,why can I not send anything with with main address that I have been using for years??
All my account information is correct so what gives?
Or should I post this in direct?
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lev
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join:2001-05-30
Chicago, IL
clubs: | Each individual account must use its own ameritech/sbcglobal/att.net account name for SMTP authentication. What are you using as your mail client? |
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MagMan
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join:2003-10-01
Westlake, OH
2 edits | Thunderbird.
I have not changed any settings.
The two accounts have the sbcglobal/att.net account name. |
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lev
Napoleon is always right
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join:2001-05-30
Chicago, IL
clubs: | Thunderbird will try to use a single SMTP server for all your mail. If you're authenticating SMTP for account1@sbcglobal.net with account2@sbcglobal.net, it won't work anymore. |
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MagMan
Life is simpler when you tell the truth.
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join:2003-10-01
Westlake, OH
·AT&T Midwest
·AT&T Midwest
| said by lev :Thunderbird will try to use a single SMTP server for all your mail. If you're authenticating SMTP for account1@sbcglobal.net with account2@sbcglobal.net, it won't work anymore. Ok! How do I solve that problem than please explain? Simply would be nice. Thanks
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rjfortyfive
join:2001-12-01
Springfield, MO
| reply to lev
said by lev :Thunderbird will try to use a single SMTP server for all your mail. If you're authenticating SMTP for account1@sbcglobal.net with account2@sbcglobal.net, it won't work anymore. So you are saying that you can not authenticate other multiple non sbc accounts with only one sbc account? You can not enter the same email address and password to SMTP authenticate multiple non sbc account anymore? in case I was not clear. If that is the case what kind of BS is this? |
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MagMan
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join:2003-10-01
Westlake, OH
·AT&T Midwest
·AT&T Midwest
| I don't know I can't send with my default account anymore and when I try to verify it my default address per the instructions giving by jsinaiko it does not work. 
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lev
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join:2001-05-30
Chicago, IL
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·AT&T Midwest
| reply to rjfortyfive
said by rjfortyfive :So you are saying that you can not authenticate other multiple non sbc accounts with only one sbc account? You can not enter the same email address and password to SMTP authenticate multiple non sbc account anymore? in case I was not clear. If that is the case what kind of BS is this? Yes, I am saying because of the changes they made, you can not authenticate with a different account name than you're using to send with.
I don't know what kind of BS it is, or that's it's necessarily BS. What we have here, is a failure to communicate, and it's not the first time that's happened. If they're going to make a change like this, which is going to be very subtle, against the way some software like Tunderbird is designed, etc, then they have to think about the consequences, and implement it with some warning.
The idea itself isn't necessarily BS, and probably comes from a desire to significantly reduce the amount of spam generated from their servers.
MagMan is a casualty of this. Were I there, or nwrickert, we could solve his problem in under 2 minutes.
Instead, we have a situation where a user is frustrated, and no amount of explaining the situation has, to date, given him the right solution. I'm going to try to find the time to go through the steps later on today and put them into a FAQ type format.
If that doesn't solve the problem, maybe someone would be willing to use VNC to fix his problem, but that opens a whole other can of worms. |
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robinth
join:2003-01-09
Chicago, IL
| reply to lev
said by lev :Yesterday, the smtp.att.yahoo.com servers began enforcing that the authenticated SMTP sender must match the PRECISE sub-account account that you're trying to send with. There are some interesting little oddities in the way this has been implemented. If a non-matching ATT Yahoo "from" address hits the ATT Yahoo SMTP server, it is bounced with the error message that was posted. BUT, if the "from" address is not in the ATT domain hierarchy (ameritech, sbcglobal, etc.) the message is sent normally.
Perhaps they will catch on to this eventually. I use a personal domain email address as a from, and I haven't had any problem so far, but will apparently have to make some adjustments if the ATT SMTP servers are further restricted. |
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nwrickert
sand groper
Premium,MVM
join:2004-09-04
Geneva, IL
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T Midwest
| If a non-matching ATT Yahoo "from" address hits the ATT Yahoo SMTP server, it is bounced with the error message that was posted. BUT, if the "from" address is not in the ATT domain hierarchy (ameritech, sbcglobal, etc.) the message is sent normally. This disparity is likely intentional.
I am guessing that the aim is to extend their use of Domain Keys header signatures, to authenticate senders. They had been previously doing this for yahoo senders, and these changes will allow them to do it for sbcglobal, etc, senders. They can't authenticate foreign domains over which they have no control, so they don't bother to try and instead omit the domain keys signature in that case.
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Somarius
join:2008-03-19
| Error 553
Recently Yahoo found a Security Hole on their servers
Message says:
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The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's e-mail address. The sender's e-mail address was ***********. Subject 'letter', Account: 'pop.att.yahoo.com', Server: 'smtp.att.yahoo.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '553 From: address not verified
»help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/edit/a···dex.html,
Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 553, Error Number: 0x800CCC78
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How To Fix this?..
You need to verify your email address to be able to send out mails, and yahoo is no using port 25 is using port 465 through a SSL connection.. so if u have an ATT account.. your outgoing should be smtp.att.yahoo.com
ok, now you need to sign in on webmail, go to "Mail Options", Then go to Account, Click on "add or edit an account", then click on "Add",
and you'll have:
*Step 1: Enter Account Name
Please enter a name for this account. This name will only be used for display purposes.
Just type "Test", you need it just to send the verification mail, Continue
*Step 2: Enter Email Address
Name: just type your name here --------------
Email: ***type an alternate email to be able to receive the verification code,***---
Continue.
*Step 3 Setup Mail Server
You need to SKIP this step
*last step will send the verification email
ok, now sign in on your alternate email open yahoo message
, copy the verification code, lick on yahoo link, paste and verify, that basically it, worked for me.
Hopefully will work for y'all
like i said its a Yahoo security hole, not AT&T Issue, sad thing is , there is no ETR, as far as i know, yahoo is working on it. im gonna try and digg for a ETR.
If this doesn't work contact yahoo 1-408-349-1472
its either Free or fee Based
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RadioDoc
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Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to robinth
said by robinth :BUT, if the "from" address is not in the ATT domain hierarchy (ameritech, sbcglobal, etc.) the message is sent normally. That has not been my experience. All email sent from my domain via ATTYahoo! servers (smtp.att.yahoo.com) was rejected. I have to use my webhost's SMTP to send business email.
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JTBidder
@pacbell.net | reply to Somarius
Thank you. Your steps for setting up alternate email addresses through the yahoo mail site did the trick. I can send emails again!!! |
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WaukMan
Premium
join:2004-01-01
Waukesha, WI
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to Somarius
I too have been hit by this (or I should say my wife was). I ran through the steps and it did seem to resolve the problem. Not sure how exactly but it seems clear that the yahoo smtp server is not only validating the username and password used to login to the smtp server but it wants the from address to be a 'valid' address for the account. Seems overkill to me. |
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jsinaiko
Premium
join:2001-04-25
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| Didn't you hear the recording while on hold for 45 minutes?
IT'S FOR YOUR PROTECTION! So quit yer yapping or Ma Bell will show up at your house with a nuke to protect you even more!
Seriously, overkill seems an appropriate way to put it. but I also suspect that the implementation was botched too. Why didn't they send out an email to everyone? Why is the verification area of the webmail options interface so deep in the system and hard to find?
It's all well and good to try and tighten up the network, but it often helps if one bothers to inform the end users. 
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jgombos
join:2003-05-19
Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to robinth
said by robinth :BUT, if the "from" address is not in the ATT domain hierarchy (ameritech, sbcglobal, etc.) the message is sent normally. That's not entirely accurate in my case. I never use my SBC-issued email address in the FROM field.. it's always a disposable (spamgourmet address) or what I'll call a vanity email address (like myfirstname@mysurname.name). For the first couple weeks since the problem struck, my outbound mail would bounce the first couple times.. and after ~4-5 resends, the SMTP server would eventually accept it.
And in the past couple days, I'm seeing that I cannot even resend to get around it. So the results are not even consistent, which is the worst possible case.
It's way too inconvenient to login to a webpage and register a new email address for every one-time-use disposable email address I craft. I'm changing email providers, BTW.
I really need an SMTP provider I can trust. Suggestions?
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