axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | reply to DaMaGeINC
Re: 7mbps new? Its pretty rare that I need so much download. Upload, on the other hand, is way too slow. I'll stick with my 3Mbps until they give the 7Mbps tier at least 1Mb upload. Comcast is pretty sucky with the upload, Cox was great though. |
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 SteveConIBEW 2222 Boston, MAPremium
join:2004-09-02
Boston, MA | said by axus:Its pretty rare that I need so much download. Upload, on the other hand, is way too slow. I'll stick with my 3Mbps until they give the 7Mbps tier at least 1Mb upload. Comcast is pretty sucky with the upload, Cox was great though. I'm curious about people complaining about upload speeds. It seems to me that the vast majority of people do not need it. I wonder if you looked at your own internet usage, how much have you uploaded in a month vs. how much you downloaded? It seems to me that tapping a few keys or a mouse click or two causes not more than a couple (hundered?) bytes sent or uploaded to retrieve kilo, mega and even giga bytes in return.
Where outside of R&D centers, campuses, and government agencies, etc. that collaborate on large projects over great distances, is a large upload bandwidth really needed? I don't mean students on campus sharing movies, etc. over popular P2P networks here or others that want to violate their ISP's TOS by running a server.. but what are you doing that requires high bandwidth upload capacities?
I'm sure there are a few that really do need it - but are there that many out there that I see bemoaning slow upload rates?
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| This is talking about the upload speeds, not how much bandwidth is required. I run a few remote websites and file servers, and I'm always uploading files to them from home, so the low upload speed really sucks for that. It might not be much traffic, but when I'm uploading a multi-megabyte file and it takes a long time, that's what I don't like.
Stuff like Remote Desktop would also be much better with faster uploads if I need to access my home computer from work. It would also help with my Slingbox  |
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to SteveCon
Try sending a bunch of 10 megapixel candid shots of your kid's birthday party to their grandparents.
Or that digital home video of the same.
Or sending large PDFs.
Or video chat.
Try working online from home while others in the house are doing any of the above if all you have is 384 up.
It is a painful experience.
There are multitudes of legitimate non-business needs for more than a piddly upload.
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This is, after all, dsl, and 7mbps over dsl is great for the price compared to its cable counterparts. The standard comcast 6mbps/384k is $52/month if you don't subscribe to their cable tv. |
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 djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
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I'll stick with my 3Mbps until they give the 7Mbps tier at least 1Mb upload
It's probably not going to happen without an upgrade to ADSL2+ or something better. Verizon's 3/768 and 7/768 tiers are "over-capped" to compensate for ATM overhead, and are fairly close to the ADSL1 "standard" maximum upload of 896kbps.
I think there have been some instances of tweaking the ADSL1 spec to get better uploads (Sprint ION comes to mind). But I think Verizon's 7/768 plan is pretty much the end of the road for standard DSL. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to mindfrost82
said by mindfrost82:This is talking about the upload speeds, not how much bandwidth is required. I run a few remote websites and file servers, and I'm always uploading files to them from home, so the low upload speed really sucks for that. It might not be much traffic, but when I'm uploading a multi-megabyte file and it takes a long time, that's what I don't like. Stuff like Remote Desktop would also be much better with faster uploads if I need to access my home computer from work. It would also help with my Slingbox running your own websites and servers it what a BUSINESS ACCOUNT is for. Try reading the TOS of your ISP. |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by BF69:said by mindfrost82:This is talking about the upload speeds, not how much bandwidth is required. I run a few remote websites and file servers, and I'm always uploading files to them from home, so the low upload speed really sucks for that. It might not be much traffic, but when I'm uploading a multi-megabyte file and it takes a long time, that's what I don't like. Stuff like Remote Desktop would also be much better with faster uploads if I need to access my home computer from work. It would also help with my Slingbox running your own websites and servers it what a BUSINESS ACCOUNT is for. Try reading the TOS of your ISP. Try reading his post. He's not running a web server on his home connection, he's uploading files to his website FROM HOME. |
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try reading his post next time. nowhere does he imply he's using his home connection as a web server; rather, he is uploading files from his home connection to his web host and he doesn't like how long it takes to upload.
if he was hosting a website at home, why would he need to upload files to his web server? |
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Exactly, thank you MattE.
I know Slingbox and Remote Desktop could be considered a type of server, but its nothing like running your own website.
My work is on a T1 line and our website is hosted on it, sometimes I work at home on the website and need to upload files or VPN to work, this would be MUCH faster with a faster upload speed. |
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 SSidlovOther Things On My MindPremium
join:2000-03-03
Pompton Lakes, NJ
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said by SteveCon:said by axus:Where outside of R&D centers, campuses, and government agencies, etc. that collaborate on large projects over great distances, is a large upload bandwidth really needed? I don't mean students on campus sharing movies, etc. over popular P2P networks here or others that want to violate their ISP's TOS by running a server.. but what are you doing that requires high bandwidth upload capacities? I'm sure there are a few that really do need it - but are there that many out there that I see bemoaning slow upload rates? ME! I BEMOAN UPLOAD RATES! See my 2003 post (when I had 1mb UPLOAD! »Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 6 ) Now, I have 1 and 2 GB cards, and can have 800-1600 photos to upload to Kodak after a busy day shooting, WHY even with my 2mb upload does it take so long!! (Capping isn't a issue anymore, they stopped capping users for excessive uploads.)
And for other reasons, this thread segment also from 2003: »Re: Capping Posts.......
(Oh and as an aside, I qualified for 8mb DSL from Bell Atlantic back in 2000....so, I think that this verizon thing is just bull unless it's very cheap compared to back then when it was expensive and in excess of $100 a month, but the upload is less than what I get today with cable (15/2mbps) and if I spent $10/mo more (aka $55/mo), I could get 30/5mbps.)
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to Matt
said by Matt:said by BF69:said by mindfrost82:This is talking about the upload speeds, not how much bandwidth is required. I run a few remote websites and file servers, and I'm always uploading files to them from home, so the low upload speed really sucks for that. It might not be much traffic, but when I'm uploading a multi-megabyte file and it takes a long time, that's what I don't like. Stuff like Remote Desktop would also be much better with faster uploads if I need to access my home computer from work. It would also help with my Slingbox running your own websites and servers it what a BUSINESS ACCOUNT is for. Try reading the TOS of your ISP. Try reading his post. He's not running a web server on his home connection, he's uploading files to his website FROM HOME. I did
"I run a few remote websites and file servers, and I'm always uploading files to them from home,"
Sound like he's using his HOME connection for business to me. |
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djweis
join:2006-04-02
West Des Moines, IA | reply to djrobx
Standard upload for Qwest DSL with 1.5, 5, and 7 meg lines is 896k. 3 meg has a 640k upload and 256k has a 256k upload.
The standard supports up to 1024k for the upstream but on any normal circuits it's difficult to get. |
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 koolman2Premium
join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK | reply to BF69
He runs a few remote websites and file servers. He uploads files to those servers from home. Therefore, his servers are not on his home connection.
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