 TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro | reply to Noah Vail
Re: I used to see it that way... said by Noah Vail:said by pnh102:... except for the fact that I work in an area that would probably be in the fallout zone of a terrorist attack. That was while we were arguing over a warrant for one call at a time. Today, we are cloning all the internet traffic running through peer pipes, and handing the FBI unrestricted access to all Verizon traffic. This is a pretty good definition of the government spying on all of us. I have moved from support of my government to defending myself from my government. NV A good citizen doesn't "support" the Government. A good citizen CRITICIZES the Government... Thomas Jefferson and our founding fathers said it themselves... The Government should fear YOU, you should NOT fear the Government.
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 mech1164I'll Be Back
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| said by Tzale:said by Noah Vail:said by pnh102:... except for the fact that I work in an area that would probably be in the fallout zone of a terrorist attack. That was while we were arguing over a warrant for one call at a time. Today, we are cloning all the internet traffic running through peer pipes, and handing the FBI unrestricted access to all Verizon traffic. This is a pretty good definition of the government spying on all of us. I have moved from support of my government to defending myself from my government. NV A good citizen doesn't "support" the Government. A good citizen CRITICIZES the Government... Thomas Jefferson and our founding fathers said it themselves... The Government should fear YOU, you should NOT fear the Government. -Tzale Quite true, but what is the first responsibility of government? To protect its people from threats. Be that external or internal. By what the Dems in the House are doing we can't do neither. BTW for all those people that cry out Privacy, PSST they don't care. You are not that sanctimoniously worth it to them. |
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TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro
1 edit | said by mech1164:Quite true, but what is the first responsibility of government? To protect its people from threats. Be that external or internal. By what the Dems in the House are doing we can't do neither. BTW for all those people that cry out Privacy, PSST they don't care. You are not that sanctimoniously worth it to them. The Government obviously is failing to do that... Have you ever been to the Home Depot in Lodi on a weekday morning??? A lot of illegal Mexicans asking for a job (and takes away American jobs)...
Taking away our freedoms in the name of security is NOT protection. It's a VIOLATION of our rights... Of course, you need to use some common sense.
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Neoconservatives (G.W.B) are not real conservatives. A conservative believes in defending the Constitution. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - RON PAUL 2008 »www.usconstitution.net/const.html
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