bfoster2000
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join:2003-01-02
Noblesville, IN
 ·Comcast
|  Need help with new build: Gaming Rig on 1000.00 Budget
Hey guys, Once again I pull on the resources of my friends at DSLR. Last Rig I built was a P4 2.8E so as you can tell I'm a little out of date by today's standards. I'm still running with the ATI 9800 (Great Card BTW). Anyway It's time for a new build and I'm trying to build the best gaming rig I can for 1k. I used to be an AMD guy then switched over to Intel and really never looked back but I'm open to all suggestions. Looking for some good ideas for a complete build so if anyone has opinions I would love to hear them. If you're like me it's easier to spend someone else's money than my own so let's look at it that way 
Thanks,
Bob |
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Alakar
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join:2001-03-23
Milwaukee, WI
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| Don't know about everything else, but here is a good deal on a nice case and power supply.
Ultra Aluminus Black Full Tower - ULT40054 w/700 watt modular PS - 155.99 free shipping
»www.buy.com/prod/ultra-aluminus-···571.html
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CLiF1274
join:2004-03-03
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You didn't state very clearly what types of games or other uses you might subject your system to and information like that can help people with guiding their recommendations. I'm guessing that your intent is that it will be a system that be able to play any game really well and won't need to be upgraded until your next build. Here is a possible build that I think might work for you.
Only part of this that I can currently testify to is the case. It's a very nice case that is well laid out setup that has lots of room for future expansion and cooling.
I have the motherboard, ram, and dvd drive on order for my own system. I basically went with the buy a good non-sli/crossfire board and spend a little more on the video card. Yes you might not need nor use the full 4 GB of ram but depending on your OS/application needs it leaves you plenty of room. Others might have some better ideas and perspective on a good build. Best of luck on it!
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail - $89.99
»www.newegg.com/product/product.a···13128059
G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail - 84.99
»www.newegg.com/product/product.a···20231122
SAMSUNG Black DVD Burner with LightScribe - SH-S203N - OEM - 33.99
»www.newegg.com/product/product.a···27151154
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail -79.99
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···11119137
Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST3250310NS 250GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM 80.99
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···22148309
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply - Retail - 109.99
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···17341001
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E6750 - Retail - 189.99
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···19115029
EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail 189.99
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14130082
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Somnambul33t
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Mullica Hill, NJ
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i like everything listed above besides the GFX card. the GTS 320 and 640 are pretty out-dated for the price. an 8800GT or 9600GT perform better than both the 320 and 640 GTS' and cost less.
9600GT: »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14130334
8800GT 512MB: »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14127329 $220 - $30MIR = 190. cheapest name brand 8800GT 512MB card AND it's the overclocked edition to boot.
according to HardOCP the OC edition BFG 9600GT is the practically the same speed as the 8800GT 512MB. after rebate i think the OC'ed 8800GT would be a better deal, but before rebate i'd probably go with the 9600GT.
both are considerably faster than the $190 GTS 320MB AND $250 640MB cards which are old models and being phased out.
also, you could opt for a NEW 8800GTS *512MB* card (nvidia doesnt like to make it easy...) for $250 - $30MIR = $200 plus free The Witcher RPG game (awesome deal considering the rebate and awesome game worth $50). this card is faster tha the 8800GT, but only marginally. It's faster than the 8800GT than the 8800GT is faster than the 9600GT, if that makes sense lol.
also considering some room left on the budget i'd recommend a Q6600 if possible »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···19115017
the E6750 is a great chip at a great price, but the step up to quad-core is worth every penny IMO. i have a dual and quad and the quad is just amazing. and yes, more and more programs are being multi-threaded to take advantage of 2 and 4 cores. many new PC games will have 2+ core support out of the box and it definitely makes a difference.
everything else posted above is spot-on with what i'd recommend. the case is obviously variable depending on your tastes, but Cooler Master makes great cases so i have no problem with that.
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eX_NihiLo
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join:2003-08-05
Louisville, CO
| reply to bfoster2000
Buy.com has a better PSU, the CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX on sale for $75 after 24 MIR w/ free shipping »www.buy.com/prod/corsair-tx-650w···324.html
MicroCenter B/M stores still have the retail Q6600 CPU for $200. |
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bfoster2000
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join:2003-01-02
Noblesville, IN
·Comcast
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Your right, I should have mentioned that I like FPS type games. My son bought me The new Unreal Tournament and I want to be able to play some of the higher end games ( The new Far Cry) as well. It's is amazing how much difference there is just in Power supply requirements these days. 350W used to be excellent while 450 was a little over the top. Now of witch cost more that 50.00 at the time. Now you can spend 3X that to get a PS that is at the low end of your needs. When it comes to processors I would lean more toward the Quad over the Core 2. I bought a Dell Lappy with Core 2 2.0 and I thing it is a Dog compared to my 2.8E? (Same OS). Anyway There is alot of good info here. I was surprised to see that not much mention of AMD or ATI. Are they not as popular these days?
I'll check in later.
Thanks Guys,
Bob |
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CLiF1274
join:2004-03-03 | Not that there is anything wrong with AMD/ATI but I feel that there is greater value in the offerings from Intel and Nvidia at the moment. |
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Somnambul33t
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| said by CLiF1274  :Not that there is anything wrong with AMD/ATI but I feel that there is greater value in the offerings from Intel and Nvidia at the moment. general consensus and most review sites show better performance vs. price with nvidia cards, and Intel flat out has the fastest desktop processors in the world. AMD would still be it for "budget" PCs, like ~$500 for full comp, but for performance, there's nothing available to a consumer that's more powerful. (Apple switched over to Core 2's early last year or the year before.) |
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Edge1
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join:2006-03-01
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Are we talking soup to nuts here? Monitor? Windows? Keyboard/mouse? Speakers? Printer?
Budget system I built for friend, everything needed:
Case/PSU:»www.newegg.com/product/product.a···11129024
Mobo: »www.newegg.com/product/product.a···13128059
Vid Card: »www.newegg.com/product/product.a···14127329
CPU: »www.newegg.com/product/product.a···19115031
RAM: »www.newegg.com/product/product.a···20231098
HDD: »www.newegg.com/product/product.a···22136074
Keyboard: »www.newegg.com/product/product.a···23126009
Monitor: »www.newegg.com/product/product.a···24009108
Mouse: »www.newegg.com/product/product.a···26104192
DVD/RW: »www.newegg.com/product/product.a···27106072
All-in-one Printer: »www.newegg.com/product/product.a···28102249
OS: »www.newegg.com/product/product.a···32116056
Speakers: »www.newegg.com/product/product.a···36121123
Verrrry slight OC of 2.2GHz CPU to 2.65. If no OC, just get the E6750 mentioned above.
That whole thing, including G11 keyboard and all-in-one printer, OS, monitor, etc was $1200. Subtract another $40-$50 in MIRs also. You only need 2GB RAM for XP, but allocate 4GB for Vista.
Its a slick gaming rig, plays all current games wonderfully, including Crysis. It'll crunch data fast, video editing, etc. L2 cache is the CPU's biggest shortcoming, but real world...meh...nominal performance hit. Like I said, if in doubt just get the E6750. |
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Edge1
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said by bfoster2000 :When it comes to processors I would lean more toward the Quad over the Core 2. I bought a Dell Lappy with Core 2 2.0 and I thing it is a Dog compared to my 2.8E? (Same OS). Anyway There is alot of good info here. That "dog" probably has more to do with it being a Dell laptop than being a Core 2 duo. God forbid if you have Norton on there or something. My E6300 (stock 1.8GHz OCed to 2.8) is verrry fast. As for going quad, sure, you can do that too - you know your budget and what you need.
You seem to have a lot of preconceived notions about AMD and ATI, probably legitimate from 4,5,6 years ago. Times have changed, and they'll likely change again.
OK, here's a better CPU and video card for you to consider:
CPU: »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···19115017
My video card: »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14130325 |
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bfoster2000
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join:2003-01-02
Noblesville, IN
·Comcast
| This is all good stuff. I think I have enough info to make an intelligent decision on the new rig although I think I might go a little over my budget
Thanks to you and all the help from DSLR group. I'll post my final purchase as soon as I put in the order. |
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