patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | reply to espaeth
Re: Multicast
Torrents can be streamed, with traditional swarming to make up for lost blocks. Its not rocket science. Only question is, will the power ever allow their holy multicast IPs to land in the hands of consumers? |
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espaeth
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What about it? Torrents are a non-starter for IPTV because the bandwidth grows linearly with the number of viewers.
Multicast = each packet delivered to many recipients; bandwidth usage remains flat as subscribers are added.
Torrent = each recipient needs their own unique packet; number of packets on the network increases linearly as viewers are added. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | reply to espaeth
How about a torrent with 300 peers? |
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espaeth
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How the heck is this a Net Neutrality issue?!
It's not like there's an exceedingly vast array of companies producing content that garners mass viewership. You'll have companies like NBC/Universal, Viacom, Time Warner, etc all partnering with information services companies to distribute their crap down to end users.
Anything that doesn't reach critical mass for viewership likely won't benefit much from multicast distribution anyway. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | reply to espaeth
Yes, but only the "partner" IPTV provider of the telco would get the QOS guarentee/tagging. Net Neutrality here we come. |
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espaeth
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join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | reply to patcat88
Multicast IPTV streams would most certainly be separate from the HSI traffic, the same way that MSO VoIP services are segmented off today. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | reply to spamd
No they dont, they can just throttle and point to "upto" clauses in the TOS. |
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spamd
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join:2001-04-22
Rockford, IL | reply to koitsu
Well with IPTV on the horizon they will have to embrace multi-cast.
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koitsu
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| ...has been around for years, handling this exact situation for quite some time. Yet ISPs continue to avoid it, for reasons unknown to mankind.
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