 RickPremium,MVM join:2001-02-06 Waterbury, CT | Why do I get the sense that executives at other isp's are cheering this decision?
It's a bit like citibank saying that they're now welcoming all the nations bank robbers to their banks instead of the competitions. -- The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic! |
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 telcolackey5The Truth? You can't handle the truth join:2007-04-06 Death Valley, CA | Or offering sub-prime rates to get customers |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | reply to Rick said by Rick:at other isp's are cheering this decision? It's a bit like citibank saying that they're now welcoming all the nations bank robbers to their banks instead of the competitions. Moves like this have a ripple effect. Verizon is future proofing their network, working to keep BT traffic on their own network instead of degrading it ... the only things the execs are cheering is the fact they'll likely be able to license the technology, or someone will copy it at no cost to them. |
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 RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | reply to Rick More like Verizon treating their customers like valued customers instead of like Comcast who treats all of their customers like shoplifters. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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 GeekNJPremium join:2000-09-23 Waldwick, NJ | said by RadioDoc:More like Verizon treating their customers like valued customers instead of like Comcast who treats all of their customers like shoplifters. You've never called support I take it. Their goal is to keep you on hold/transferred/repeating the same info over long enough that you just die and the problem goes away.
The service has been excellent. The customer service issues posted in the forums are overwhelming -- Tweaked your connection? | Mail Parse | Speed Converter |
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 RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | Nope, but I have to deal with AT&T which is it's own dark riddle.
I was talking specifically about the service, in which Verizon seems to have figured out that instead of assuming all of your customers are the enemy to be watched, penned and lied to a la Comcast they get better results by giving them what they want and letting them use it. Of course, FiOS is not trying to stuff a marketing elephant into a technical pillbox, either. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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 FutureMonIs voting for ObamaPremium,ExMod 2002-05 join:2000-10-05 Long Beach, CA | It **could** give verizon the ability to put a noose on a lot more necks than they could now if they were ever required to cooperate with authorities in a piracy investigation - because they'd have a bigger slice of the piracy pie for things being traded on their network.
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 RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | Considering they've been probably the most pro-customer when "asked" for such data that's kind of a stretch. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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 | reply to GeekNJ Unspeakably poor customer service.Awe inspiringly bad.Record setting badness. To the bone badness.Stinks like Limburger cheese customer service.Give you the blues worse than BB King. Makes you slap your momma type bad. So bad, you need to say it twice like a yuppy kids nick name , Bad- Bad.It's so bad if it was Elvis, it would be fat Elvis with laryngitis in his underwear(in your living room)
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5 | reply to Matt said by Matt:Moves like this have a ripple effect. Verizon is future proofing their network, working to keep BT traffic on their own network instead of degrading it ... the only things the execs are cheering is the fact they'll likely be able to license the technology, or someone will copy it at no cost to them. Plain-old vanilla (non-DNA) BitTorrent already does this by using 2-3 dedicated pairings on upload slots and an optimistic unchoking algorithm that always looks for a better reciprocator.
The protocol is written so that the best 2-3 reciprocating peers in your part of the swarm will pair-up and continue to transfer with one another. One more upload slot is used to hop around the remainder of the peer list to try to find a better peer to replace one of the 2-3 that it already has. This way, BitTorrent adapts to changing network conditions and the appearance and disappearance of peers.
As a downloader, my goal is to get the file fast. Since Verizon-to-Verizon connections will be electrically closer (fewest hops), once the BitTorrent protocol has had a few minutes to find the best peers, it should usually settle on my nearest peers because they have the least latency.
If all things are not equal -- my nearest peer is too busy, on a congested link, misconfigured, or whatever -- then BitTorrent might find that a more distant peer is going to download more than a closer peer. THIS IS A GOOD THING -- the last thing we want a P2P protocol to do is to hammer a congested link or node and make things worse for everyone.
In other words: Using existing and natural means, BitTorrent already adjusts to the network topography and conditions. But when all is well, it should give preference to connections that are closest to one another. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon "We don't throttle any traffic," -Charlie Douglas, Comcast spokesman, on this report. |
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