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ross

join:2000-08-16

reply to amigo_boy

Re: Conyers is my hero

said by amigo_boy:

said by jc100:

You have liberal and right ring judges making their own laws.
Ross, would you like to handle this? I know how adamant you were with me that judges don't create laws. (Or, is it just me?).

Mark
Same message applies: The courts do NOT make the law, they interpret the law to decide if, and how, it may apply to a set of facts in evidence before them, which facts are not in dispute, but the application of law as befit them is. However, in no case does the court make law, rather, it interprets a law, or set of laws, and renders a judgment as regards applicability to the facts of a case before them, or, if the constitutionality of the law itself is in question, they may address that aspect of the law, as it is their mandate to do so.

amigo_boy

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said by ross:

said by amigo_boy:

said by jc100:

You have liberal and right ring judges making their own laws.
Ross, would you like to handle this? I know how adamant you were with me that judges don't create laws. (Or, is it just me?).

Mark
Same message applies: The courts do NOT make the law, ...
In your opinion, why is there so much emphasis placed upon the person holding the presidency and their ability to nominate Justices to the Court? If it's not like they have the effect of creating law, why does it matter? Is everyone confused?

Mark

ross

join:2000-08-16

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said by amigo_boy:

In your opinion, why is there so much emphasis placed upon the person holding the presidency and their ability to nominate Justices to the Court? If it's not like they have the effect of creating law, why does it matter? Is everyone confused?

Mark
Are you still confused about how laws are drawn up, voted on, and if passed, by the legislature, sent to the president for signature or veto? What does this process have to due with the courts, other than legislators and presidents have to be aware of the constraints placed upon them by the Constitution, and that their actions are subject to review by the courts through judicial review of laws they have passed.

It is the individual opinions of the members of the court that politicians of late are concerned with. They have introduced partisan politics into the appointment process of what is supposed to be a non-partisan, independent judiciary. The result is a court which may be manipulated to sustain constitutionally unsound law. A once lofty position of public trust has been reduced to a lifetime employment contract for intellectual frauds like Thomas, and Rehnquist before him, to accomplish political ends of transient worth. Pitiable, really.

amigo_boy

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said by ross:

It is the individual opinions of the members of the court that politicians of late are concerned with. They have introduced partisan politics ...
Did you see that quote about Douglas which I posted earlier? Do you consider 1939 "recent?"

Mark

ross

join:2000-08-16

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reply to amigo_boy

Re: Conyers is my hero

said by amigo_boy:

said by ross:

It is the individual opinions of the members of the court that politicians of late are concerned with. They have introduced partisan politics ...
Did you see that quote about Douglas which I posted earlier? Do you consider 1939 "recent?"

Mark
Nevermind. You can parse every phrase of mine individually, take them out of context, and ignore the meaning conveyed by the body of my words to meander about the cul-de-sacs of your labyrinthian reasoning all you want, but the point remains; courts interpret and enforce the law, they do not make the law. Courts may even declare a law null and void, but that is not making law.

That partisan attempts to stack the court ideologically have been going on a long time, does not exclude the more recent, increasingly blatant, and dishonest attempts by contemporary politicos to do so. Perhaps I, and others, have simply tired of the struggle against the forces of oppression, and are fed up with the cavalier way you, and those who think like you, surrender your ethics, and discard the rule of law based on ill-informed cynicism. Be that as it may, your obstinate and poorly reasoned positions have become more than annoying. Kindly change your source from the Wikipedia article you are so enamored of to a more informed, and informing source.

amigo_boy

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said by ross:

Nevermind. You can parse every phrase of mine individually,
Sorry, but it's that or throw a dart to pick a sentence within your disjointed and melodramatic ramblings.

said by ross:

I, and others, have simply tired of the struggle against the forces of oppression,
And then:

said by ross:

[We] are fed up with [your] cynicism.
[Blink] [Blink] I think you're projecting.

Mark

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