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TheS0urce

join:2008-02-26
reply to MikeA1972
Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed.

Why not try a different client? Try using Azureus and see what happens maybe it's you uttorent for some reason?

MikeA1972

join:2008-02-06
Brantford, ON
reply to Bee Beep
No.. I am with Colosseum, and for a couple hours, it was certainly slow with torrents. I tried 3 different clients, and it was the same. But like I said, for me any way, in Brantford.. all is well at the moment.

pwnedrice

join:2006-04-27

1 edit
reply to Bee Beep
theres nothing wrong with my torrents now...
it seemed to be back to about 500kb/s on torrents...
but i still think throttling was used


andrewhaji
Premium
join:2002-03-02
North York, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

reply to Bee Beep
It's a little insulting that so many of you immediately called those of us experiencing issues "wrong" and declared that under no circumstances could throttling be involved. If you look at the facts, clearly something was happening. I'm interested to hear what TSI has to say about this. In any case, it seems to have been a localized and temporary issue, as my speeds have returned to normal this morning.

Perhaps a little more respect is in order? There is no law which states that you are always correct and everyone else is always wrong.


monkey Butt

@videotron.ca

said by andrewhaji See Profile :

1) It's a little insulting that so many of you immediately called those of us experiencing issues "wrong" and declared that under no circumstances could throttling be involved. If you look at the facts, clearly something was happening. I'm interested to hear what TSI has to say about this.
Perhaps a little more respect is in order? There is no law which states that you are always correct and everyone else is always wrong.

2) In any case, it seems to have been a localized and temporary issue, as my speeds have returned to normal this morning.
I re-arranged your paragraphs a bit, hope you don't mind. easier to comment per point

1) Teksavvy users are militant. Rocky built a brand similar to Apple and it has a following. So anything negative will viciously be attacked.

However, some teksavvy users swore monkey would fly out their butt before teksavvy applied caps... well we know what happened there... those users needed anal stitches.

2) Yes your P2P would work properly now. Bell's throttle lasts (if I am not mistaken) till 2-am, and starts around 4ish-pm.

I noticed users started reporting normal speeds after 2-am. Coincidence? You decide.

But the times of day & the speed limit all points to a bell throttle. Coincidence? You decide.


mazhurg
Premium
join:2004-05-02
Portage La Prairie, MB
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·MTS

reply to andrewhaji
Mmmm... where they wrong?

From what I know of this company, they are one of the few out there that are extremely honest with their customers and is not afraid of calling the shots as they happen, as they already stated a few times in this tread alone.


yeah mon

@videotron.ca

said by mazhurg See Profile :

Mmmm... where they wrong?

From what I know of this company, they are one of the few out there that are extremely honest with their customers and is not afraid of calling the shots as they happen, as they already stated a few times in this tread alone.
They are. if you refer to the other thread in the canadian broadband forum, this is not due to teksavvy.

Anyhow its all rumour.

For all we know it was a glitch in bells throttle or something.

QCTLG

join:2008-01-20

reply to Bee Beep
Whatever the reason was for throttling yesterday or whenever,
I'd sure would like to hear someone at TEKSAVVY to comment.

If you read the whole thread....at the beginning there were alot of people defending that Teksavvy DOES NOT throttle including Teksavvy personnel.

I haven't seen a comment from a Teksavvy person in a couple of pages since.

This is about some people having had their bandwidth throttled and I believe they deserve an explanation. Period.

For myself I have absolutely no problems whatsoever.
Oh and BTW..I'm a VERY happy customer of Teksavvy.
(In case I get attacked)


R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON


4 edits
After some discussions with Bell, while doing upgrades to zones that are under capacity, it looks like they've now started to implement at type of load balance system of sorts... I don't think it's a throttle, but it does seem they're spreading the pain from the looks of it right now.

We're hoping to get more details after the holiday weekend to see what the official plans are from them.

As a side note, we have no plans to throttle anything, so if anyone is experiencing anything remotely related to this, it would be before it hits our side... This looks like a load to upgrade planning issue right now with the Bell side of things....

We would have loved to have given a faster response on this one, but it's still not clear exactly what's going on or where to ask questions as of yet.

More to come shortly on this matter.

Rocky
--
TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc.


Bellundo

@teksavvy.com
reply to InvalidError
Read a post posted by FCKINFEDUP in the sympatico forum. Suppose he's right?


R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON

1 edit
What thread?

Edit: just found it... Not sure this is related... I think it's more of a load thing from what we're seeing on the way they're doing this, if this is what they're doing.

QCTLG

join:2008-01-20

reply to Bee Beep
ROCKY,

Thanks for responding and giving us an update.
I "GREATLY" appreciate it...

Now after reading this thread...I'm lost for words right now...
»If its not one thing its another

Regards,


load of what

@videotron.ca

reply to R0CKY
from the times given in the complaints above and from the times given till the complainers mentioned the "load-balancing" stopped, its the same times exactly as the predefined times of the Bell throttle.

I guess the users who are affected should watch the times their speed drop to 30kB/s and when it stops.

But so far the times match bells throttle exactly.

So if bell is trying to toss technical terms such as "load balancing" to mean their throttle, then I think the only "load" is the "load" bell shoveled to you as the explanation

sad day indeed for those affected.


R0CKY
TSI Rocky
Premium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON


1 edit
I personally used the words load balance as they said a sort of global throttle, when the loads were heavy, but the problem with using throttle in this case is they're spreading the pain in areas that are overloaded. So, as it seems a throttle is in place it may also be a load-balance tactic of sorts.

Will respond with more details as they become available, as right we're pretty much just guessing too.
--
TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc.

RogersLite

join:2004-12-05
Canada
reply to Bee Beep
ahh so i'm assuming what happens is the places like in toronto that are like overuseed they take the data transfer and spread it out on other nodes or networks to not overload their nodes i assume

BozoTheCl0wn

join:2005-04-01
H0H0H0

reply to MikeA1972
said by MikeA1972 See Profile :

Whatever was happening, seems to have been corrected. Let's all hope for the best.
if it's like Bell it stop around 2AM so that would explain. Sorry to burst your bubble...

BozoTheCl0wn

join:2005-04-01
H0H0H0

reply to R0CKY
said by R0CKY See Profile :

I personally used the words load balance as they said a sort of global throttle, when the loads were heavy, but the problem with using throttle in this case is they're spreading the pain in areas that are overloaded. So, as it seems a throttle is in place it may also be a load-balance tactic of sorts.

Will respond with more details as they become available, as right we're pretty much just guessing too.
A load balance that only affects BT? Sound like throttling to me. People affected can do other protocols at full speed. Even the start and stop times seem the same as with BS.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

sMURF

join:2007-02-27
Toronto, ON

reply to R0CKY
said by R0CKY See Profile :

I personally used the words load balance as they said a sort of global throttle, when the loads were heavy, but the problem with using throttle in this case is they're spreading the pain in areas that are overloaded. So, as it seems a throttle is in place it may also be a load-balance tactic of sorts.

Will respond with more details as they become available, as right we're pretty much just guessing too.
Is throttling Bell's answer to everything?

While I wasn't affected by any throttling last night, I'm still pissed off. Does Bell even realize that demand will continue to rise? All the money they're spending on throttling technologies, all the money they gain by raping their customers, or all the money saved by using low skill scriptmonkeys in India could be used to upgrade their pathetic network.

I don't use torrents that often anymore, as I mostly use Usenet. However, I'd still like to know that torrents aren't crippled should I decide to use them, which is just one reason why I left Rogers.

Bell pisses me off, they need to get their shit together.


AMailer
Aaron DM

join:2004-04-03
·Cogeco Cable
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Dreamhost

reply to daboom
Ha, total opposit for me. I'm getting the best speeds on torrents than I've had before on DSL 415kB/s EEE
--
www.AaronDM.com
Web developer & designer

Radar73

join:2008-01-20
Ajax, ON

said by AMailer See Profile :

Ha, total opposit for me. I'm getting the best speeds on torrents than I've had before on DSL 415kB/s EEE
You would get good speeds now because the throttle ends at 2:00am. This was the exact BT behaviour I had before I left BS for TSI. If Bell is doing "load balancing" of some sort, I hope ROCKY has some wiggle room in his agreements with Bell to get Bell to stop affecting TSI customers like this. TSI has screamed "we do not throttle" many times, but whether it's TSI (no) or Bell (yes), it's the same thing to us Linux downloaders with crippled connections for half the day.
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