alec
join:2007-12-24
Ottawa, ON
 ·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..
 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
 ·Storm Internet
| reply to R0CKY
Re: Teksavvy's throttling now? Just a vent, nothing is needed.
Any thoughts about sending out an e-mail to all Teksavvy users, with links to current issues or link to the forum? Since probably only 1% or less even know about the forums and the other 99% wanting reasons why they can't download anymore, etc etc
just my 2 cents |
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alec
join:2007-12-24
Ottawa, ON
1 edit | reply to funkytim
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anonymous beagle
@bell.ca
| reply to R0CKY
Rocky,
Can you confirm that 5410 is the right tariff for us to be poring over (i.e. not 5400 or 5420)? 5410 includes "logical paths to provide network connectivity between GAS Access arrangements and an ADSL AHSSPI by aggregating traffic associated with each GAS Access served from groups of wire centres to a Broadband Access Server (BAS) and subsequently aggregating such traffic from all Company provided BAS to the ADSL AHSSPI." Compare to 5400 which tariffs DS3 AHSSPI. I'm betting they couldn't pull this crap under Item 5400 (fixed 44.736 Mbit/s means no justification for tampering with my bits!) |
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inferno_gn
Premium
join:2007-02-26
Verdun, QC
| reply to Bee Beep
Hi there,
Can Teksavvy actually do an e-mail to all 21k customers explaining the situation and what is going on on the throttling, at least we have a clear and official statement on what we can do and so forth, since I know not all 21k peoples comes here. *lol*
inferno_gn
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»www.otakuanime.com/ |
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qweloo
join:2007-10-04
h3p 2c4 | Give TSI some time. They just confirmed it today.
I guess they will be talking to other 3rd parties ISP and lawyers before deciding what actions to take before sending something out explaining the what, why, and now what?.
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CHRoNoSS
@teksavvy.com
| reply to Bee Beep
Allow me to give you some legal ideas
A) TSI gives me 1$/month per person get to them to sign up.
they are told be my that they dont traffic shape and have an unlimited plan.
As this is not true its fraud.
because it isn't my fault or TSI's but is in fact bell might be that every user could be party to a class action.
B) The privacy act should get some serious play here, if i rent a room from a landlord its mine, while the common areas are his and shared to me. basically TSI rents the lines and bandwidth, and without proper notice they have changed the rules and harmed not only me but all TSI and other third party
ISP's.
my mental health will suffer as i am disabled and this give sme great stress is another fact.
Bell has lied ot me cheated me , tried to double bill me continously, has threatened me with legal action fo rusing a completely legal application ( utorrent ) of which at time of said threat i was LOL getting a set of freeware ebooks.
all video/audio taped.
now imagine that half a TSI's users are the abused of bell, perhaps we should all pitch in 1$ and that 21000 would definately get a lawyer ( most would want mere 5 grand to start )
seriously my rights have been violated and i am hurt. |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18 | does it count if i feel like shit bc im sick?  ? |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | reply to Omr
That 50k figure was, IIRC, including resellers. They're not technically TekSavvy customers, even though they are effectively. |
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nokiasac
@telus.net
1 edit | reply to CHRoNoSS
said by CHRoNoSS :
Allow me to give you some legal ideas
A) TSI gives me 1$/month per person get to them to sign up.
they are told be my that they dont traffic shape and have an unlimited plan.
As this is not true its fraud.
because it isn't my fault or TSI's but is in fact bell might be that every user could be party to a class action.
B) The privacy act should get some serious play here, if i rent a room from a landlord its mine, while the common areas are his and shared to me. basically TSI rents the lines and bandwidth, and without proper notice they have changed the rules and harmed not only me but all TSI and other third party
ISP's.
my mental health will suffer as i am disabled and this give sme great stress is another fact.
Bell has lied ot me cheated me , tried to double bill me continously, has threatened me with legal action fo rusing a completely legal application ( utorrent ) of which at time of said threat i was LOL getting a set of freeware ebooks.
all video/audio taped.
now imagine that half a TSI's users are the abused of bell, perhaps we should all pitch in 1$ and that 21000 would definately get a lawyer ( most would want mere 5 grand to start )
seriously my rights have been violated and i am hurt.
Man its just internet. Get over it. |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18
·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | said by nokiasac :said by CHRoNoSS :
Allow me to give you some legal ideas
A) TSI gives me 1$/month per person get to them to sign up.
they are told be my that they dont traffic shape and have an unlimited plan.
As this is not true its fraud.
because it isn't my fault or TSI's but is in fact bell might be that every user could be party to a class action.
B) The privacy act should get some serious play here, if i rent a room from a landlord its mine, while the common areas are his and shared to me. basically TSI rents the lines and bandwidth, and without proper notice they have changed the rules and harmed not only me but all TSI and other third party
ISP's.
my mental health will suffer as i am disabled and this give sme great stress is another fact.
Bell has lied ot me cheated me , tried to double bill me continously, has threatened me with legal action fo rusing a completely legal application ( utorrent ) of which at time of said threat i was LOL getting a set of freeware ebooks.
all video/audio taped.
now imagine that half a TSI's users are the abused of bell, perhaps we should all pitch in 1$ and that 21000 would definately get a lawyer ( most would want mere 5 grand to start )
seriously my rights have been violated and i am hurt.
Man its just internet. Get over it. this is a huge deal as it changes everything
TCP/IP is THE protocol of coice these days
so is it ok if 2 days from now i descide you don't deserve to have a phone and throttle your access to make calls to 1 a day. Oh yeah i forgot to tell yeah thats my new terms.
Or how about going to a hospital and being refused treatment?
would you expect that?, NO
so why should this be any different? |
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GoogleFreak
join:2008-03-25
Etobicoke, ON
1 edit | reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz  :Bell told Rocky BT and P2P, though. And Deadpool has repeatedly told us that (as far as Sympatico customers are concerned) VPNs should not be affected. Bell probably doesn't care about people trying to circumvent it, because so few people have the technical knowledge to do so. VPN getting throttled (if they really are, and we need to confirm which VPN technologies are throttled) is probably just collateral damage. You trust Bell I mean they did lie before! Heck I trust the government more than Bell and that says a lot hehe |
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lcdguy
join:2008-01-17
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Bee Beep
This just proof that bell, and more appropriately BCE should be stopped. All they really do is screw around and mess things up. But unfortunately they have almost a monopoly on the telco infrastructure in canada. What is really scary is this throttling issue is only going to fix bells supposed network issue for so long eventually they are going to have to upgrade their network. Anyway enough of that. Maybe we should lobby to the Teachers Pension of Ontario since they have a sizable stake in BCE  |
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rubberglove
@teksavvy.com
| reply to anon65756
I love how people always talk about downloading your Linux ISO's. My guess is you must have them all by now or do you just download unbuntu everyday? Heh. Sure, I download tv and movies as well, but literally while I was writing that last post I was downloading/seeding a torrent for the Fedora 9 beta live CD.
The bottom line is that I pay for a certain level of internet access, and if bell is going change that, than they should at least lower the rates (that is, charge teksavvy less for the filtered bandwidth). |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | Except, when people here in the TekSavvy forum say they're downloading Linux ISOs, we don't mean we're downloading the CD images of linux distributions, we mean we're downloading Angelo's brand of Linux ISOs, which you might otherwise know as porn. |
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The Flash
You don't win friends with salad
Premium
join:2002-10-17
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Execulink
| said by Guspaz :Except, when people here in the TekSavvy forum say they're downloading Linux ISOs, we don't mean we're downloading the CD images of linux distributions, we mean we're downloading Angelo's brand of Linux ISOs, which you might otherwise know as porn. vintage |
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mazhurg
Premium
join:2004-05-02
Portage La Prairie, MB
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·MTS
| reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz :Except, when people here in the TekSavvy forum say they're downloading Linux ISOs, we don't mean we're downloading the CD images of linux distributions, we mean we're downloading Angelo's brand of Linux ISOs, which you might otherwise know as porn. Merciless....  |
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The Flash
You don't win friends with salad
Premium
join:2002-10-17
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Execulink
| said by mazhurg :said by Guspaz :Except, when people here in the TekSavvy forum say they're downloading Linux ISOs, we don't mean we're downloading the CD images of linux distributions, we mean we're downloading Angelo's brand of Linux ISOs, which you might otherwise know as porn. Merciless.... you know what's funny too? Angelo created the thread boasting about his internet speed...only to get busted by someone googling the filename. |
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moezie
join:2004-04-05
Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC | reply to sbrook
Federal Industry Minister's email is:
Minister.Industry@ic.gc.ca |
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sppena
join:2007-06-08
Toronto
| reply to nokiasac
clearly nokiasac does not realize the scope of of this issue. How about I put this in another perspective so you can understand the gravity of the situation.
Would you buy a fuel efficient car if that is only Caped to go to 30km/h?
Would you buy a water bottle that is Caped to fill only half a bottle?
Would you pay for post-secondary education at full price but Caped that you only receive a C+ on every course?
hopyfully now u understand a bit of the situation, if not then its time for you to grow up and face the real world. |
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Dillerd
@rogers.com
| reply to Bee Beep
I'll definately keep an eye on this situation.
Once I leave for Barrie May the 1st, I will hope things
do not get worse for Tekksavy and its customers.
If Tekksavy by that time gets "Rogers bad" in terms of throttling from Bell, I might as well just stay with
Rogers, or another independent ISP. There's no way I'll
consider Bell Sympatico as an option after what they're
doing to the resellers. It's just plain underhanded.
If things get better, I will definately consider subscribing to Tekksavy's DSL service.
Usenet isn't being affected, is it? Has anyone reported a problem with it anywhere? |
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