 anonyjane
join:2008-02-10 Billingsley, AL
| reply to impala Re: how to setup new dsl access ACCOUNT w/o using the install cd
Supposedly, the new process was implemented to follow FCC guidelines about how customer information needs to be handled. Those guidelines basically prohibit any agent with AT&T from having access to a customer's password. Since you cannot create a username without a password, customers are the only ones who can go through this process.
I am assuming that the site is compatible with MACs. I don't think they worried about making it compatible with Linux users, I guess they assume that they'll have at least one Windows PC that they can use to set up the initial connection.
They've pretty much tied our hands so we cannot do it for you and they also don't give us any info about how secure the software is or how to remove it if the customer does not wish to have it on their computer. I also don't know how to get around installing the Motive software, if there even is a way around it. It stinks. |
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 impala
join:2008-03-08 Clemson, SC
·AT&T Southeast
| WinXP IE7: motive install required WinXP FireFox: no go "Unsupported Computer Configuration" MacOS Safari: works OK; skips motive or any software MacOS Camino: no go
Guess I'll be using MacOS the next time.
If you don't know, Safari is the default MacOS browser. Camino is related to FireFox (but not the same as). |
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  wayjac Premium,MVM join:2001-12-22 Indy
·AT&T Midwest
| said by impala :This is stupid. What to linux/MacOS users do? If you can get the installer cd look on the cd for a ManualSetup.html file it may contain another registration url.
Don't you think it's odd that "dslinstallation.bellsouth.net" redirects to a page with a "AT&T Yahoo High Speed Internet" end user license agreement -- God bless our troops |
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 impala
join:2008-03-08 Clemson, SC
·AT&T Southeast
1 edit | said by wayjac :\If you can get the installer cd look on the cd for a ManualSetup.html file it may contain another registration url. No such file.
FYI: the CD does have software for Mac. The software includes stuff from Motive. However, it appears that you do not have to use the CD or install the Motive software if you use MacOS Safari. I wonder if Windows Safari will work without Motive? If not, you could probably use User Agent Switcher with firefox to pretend to be MacOS Safari.
Still, there needs to be an official way to get a userid and password without installing crap software on Windows. |
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  wayjac Premium,MVM join:2001-12-22 Indy | Looks like for right now there's no way around the software install. As far as I can tell the motive software will uninstall cleanly. You should be able to do the registration from any internet connection. |
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  corporal8
@bellsouth.net | How do you uninstall Motive? I have looked in add/remove programs and I don't see it. |
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 Airwolf7 Premium join:2004-12-12 Franklin, KY
·AT&T Southeast
| Most of us Microsoft Windows users are now running Windows XP or Windows Vista. Could we not set a System Restore point and install this software and set up the modem and when done roll back the computer using this System Restore point that we created before installing this software? |
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  wayjac Premium,MVM join:2001-12-22 Indy
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to corporal8 I prefer using the control panel add/remove program tool, most times it works. The name for the motive software in add/remove program is ATT-NAP

Before removing the software you'll also find 2 folders in the program files folder save a copy of the install.log file from the att folder

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 impala
join:2008-03-08 Clemson, SC
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to impala said by impala : I wonder if Windows Safari will work without Motive? If not, you could probably use User Agent Switcher with firefox to pretend to be MacOS Safari. I tried this in WinXP with Firefox and User Agent Switcher Add-on and it appeared to work without motive. I say appeared to because I got as far as I did with MacOS Safari; past the point where motive installs. I got to the point where you enter your phone/account # for identification. However, I don't have a new user to register, and don't expect to have one any time soon.
It didn't matter if User Agent Switcher was set to pretend to be Safari or IE. If Safari, motive was not downloaded. If set for IE; motive is downloaded but firefox doesn't install it. |
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  wayjac Premium,MVM join:2001-12-22 Indy
·AT&T Midwest
| said by impala :I tried this in WinXP with Firefox and User Agent Switcher Add-on and it appeared to work without motive. Looks like you may have found a way to register without the motive software. What is the url used with Safari?
The pages below are with the motive software installed

This is the page for Re-installs / Additional computer

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 impala
join:2008-03-08 Clemson, SC
·AT&T Southeast
|  MacOS Safari New Customer |
starting with the same ole »dslinstallation.bellsouth.net with MacOS Safari I end up here after selecting New Customer. No Motive installed. I can do the same in Windows Firefox using the User Agent Switcher. |
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  wayjac Premium,MVM join:2001-12-22 Indy | I believe you've found a way to bypass the CD software and the web software for those savvy enough to try your method.
Works for me just as you posted  |
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