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Well: FireFox with NoScript, AdBlock and Lowered Rights via Local Security Policy for that browser.
Opera with Java unticked and Macromedia unticked also with lowered rights via LSP for that browser.
The rest of the browsers are actually based on either OPERA, IE or Mozilla code. |
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| said by tempnexus :Well: FireFox with NoScript, AdBlock and Lowered Rights via Local Security Policy for that browser. Opera with Java unticked and Macromedia unticked also with lowered rights via LSP for that browser. The rest of the browsers are actually based on either OPERA, IE or Mozilla code. Actually I mean the browser that could provide anonymous web surfing opportunity using TOR and encrypted private data that stored in my pc, all included so to say |
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| once you installed Tor then you can use Torbutton extension in Firefox to quickly enable/disable browsing via Tor »https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275
You are aware, i assume, that there could be some issues »Rogue Nodes Turn Tor Anonymizer Into Eavesdropper's Paradise
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| Firefox addons has dozen of vulnerabilities and also firefox launches very slowly with many addons installed |
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| reply to Dunkan said by Dunkan :Firefox addons has dozen of vulnerabilities and also firefox launches very slowly with many addons installed None of the ones listed in this thread here have known vulnerabilities and with them installed FF will load as it usually does
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| reply to Davebo_ said by Davebo_ :Proof - right now.... »www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2138984,00.asp, »paranoia.dubfire.net/2007/05/rem···fox.html and many many hacker web sites will prove to u |
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| If you look in your second link you will see "... Users of popular Firefox extensions such as NoScript, Greasemonkey, and AdBlock Plus have nothing to worry about. ..." and from the 1st link "... The attack requires that other significant compromises exist on the networkspecifically that the user's DNS server be compromised .."
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| said by Cudni :If you look in your second link you will see "... Users of popular Firefox extensions such as NoScript, Greasemonkey, and AdBlock Plus have nothing to worry about. ..." and from the 1st link "... The attack requires that other significant compromises exist on the networkspecifically that the user's DNS server be compromised .." Cudni Please don't obscure the issue with facts. -- Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness. . . Isa. 5:20 |
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| reply to Dunkan If you want to feel better: Ablock Plus and especially NoScript update almost daily in this box.
Edit: The extensions mentioned in the link you provided are basically virus magnets. I wouldn't touch any of those even with a 10 foot pole.
A different story is clicking on a "MySpace fake invite" as I did not many months ago. In that instance you are basically "pollo frito." |
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| reply to javaMan said by javaMan :Please don't obscure the issue with facts. I will not obscure the issue with facts. I will not obscure the issue with facts. I will not obscure the issue with facts. I will not obscure the issue with facts. I will not obscure the issue with facts. I will not obscure the issue with facts. I will not obscure the issue with facts. I will not obscure the issue with facts. I will not obscure the issue with facts.
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| reply to tempnexus said by tempnexus :Well: FireFox with NoScript, AdBlock and Lowered Rights via Local Security Policy for that browser. Opera with Java unticked and Macromedia unticked also with lowered rights via LSP for that browser. He said "secure", not "crippled". You don't cut off your arm to avoid getting a papercut. |
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| reply to Dunkan PCmag (lol) and a blog entry, eh?
NEXT!
In fairness, all browsers are insecure. Firefox, configured properly, is the most secure browser out there IMO. Opera is pretty decent as well, if you can get used to it. |
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| reply to quatrix Find me a "Secure" browser that allows full Java and Macromedia compatibility??? We are no longer looking at BROWSER EXPLOITS, we are looking at JAVA exploits and Macromedia (aka flash) exploits. You can't have a secure browser if you allow it to execute unsecure code like JAVA and/or Flash. Your attack vector is no longer against the browser engine it's against the JAVA and FLASH. Of course running in LIMITED or GUEST rights via LSP will help a lot since the child spawned by the parent will inherit the parents rights...but just to be sure, you can always add JAVA and Flash into Limited/Guest LSP entry.
And in all fariness his Definition of "secure" is actually "Obfuscated" aka "annonymous" browsing and not "security/antiexploit" browsing. |
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| said by tempnexus :. . . Of course running in LIMITED or GUEST rights via LSP will help a lot since the child spawned by the parent will inherit the parents rights...but just to be sure, you can always add JAVA and Flash into Limited/Guest LSP entry. Running as limited or guest? You must be kidding. That's asking the impossible of Windows users.  -- Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness. . . Isa. 5:20 |
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| Well it's called LSP entry under SOFTWARE RESTRICTION POLICY -> ADDITIONAL RULES -> New Path Rule (point to the browser and choose security level).
The whole system will still run as Admin but the browser will run as Whatever security you specify (and so will it's child process...or at least in most cases) |
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| said by tempnexus :Well it's called LSP entry under SOFTWARE RESTRICTION POLICY -> ADDITIONAL RULES -> New Path Rule (point to the browser and choose security level). The whole system will still run as Admin but the browser will run as Whatever security you specify (and so will it's child process...or at least in most cases) Or they could use limited/standard accounts--the recommended method--and not have to do it at all. Anyway, I didn't mean to sidetrack the thread. -- Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness. . . Isa. 5:20 |
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| reply to Dunkan First of all, both articles are almost a year old.
Secondly, don't believe ALL the FUD you read on the "internet".
Thirdly, use the correct extensions and DON'T use the incorrect ones (those not downloaded directly from Mozilla, as also mentioned) with Fx.
I don't know if that vulnerability even still exists, it may have been patched by now. Not to mention one of the following situations ALSO needs to be true for this vulnerability to work: "this possibility exists whenever the user cannot trust their domain name server (DNS) or network connection. Examples of this include public wireless networks, and users connected to compromised home routers".
There is NO browser that is 100% "secure", there is only MORE secure. And that would be Fx, especially with the right extensions. -- 10,741 DEADLY TERROR ATTACKS SINCE 9/11~~TEAM DISCOVERY Can't feel you anymore, don't need you anymore, don't believe you anymore, I don't need you anymore
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| reply to javaMan said by javaMan :Please don't obscure the issue with facts. Or old information.  |
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