 HeadSpinning
join:2005-05-29 Windsor, ON
| reply to ISP_Worker Re: Nexxia throttling?
I have not seem an actual case of Bell using traffic shaping on a wholesale DSL connection, but I have heard rumours that they are going to implement it, or have already started to do so in some cases.
This is contradictory to what my Bell account team has been telling me - specifically, that Bell is NOT using shaping on wholesale connections.
Bell's congestion issues are not in their backbone connections - they're in the DSL aggregation network. Traffic shaping Sympatico only simply chases customers to wholesale DSL providers, and doesn't solve the problem.
It wouldn't surprise me if they did in fact start to traffic shape wholesale DSL connections. |
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  sbrook Premium,Mod join:2001-12-14 H0H 0H0
·Rogers Hi-Speed
Host: Rogers Bell Canada
| As I understand it, they are shaping Sympatico customers and anyone who uses a 3rd party DSL LOGIN account but with a Sympatico connection. In other words, you have Sympatico, but you've used your monthly allowance of 60GB, so you get a $10 login account from a 3rd party which gives you unlimited bandwidth. Sympatico/Nexxia WILL throttle that LOGIN connection.
If you have a DSL connection with the 3rd party then you aren't throttled. |
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  Kardinal We will remember them Premium join:2001-02-04 N of 49th clubs:
| said by sbrook :As I understand it, they are shaping Sympatico customers and anyone who uses a 3rd party DSL LOGIN account but with a Sympatico connection. In other words, you have Sympatico, but you've used your monthly allowance of 60GB, so you get a $10 login account from a 3rd party which gives you unlimited bandwidth. Sympatico/Nexxia WILL throttle that LOGIN connection. If you have a DSL connection with the 3rd party then you aren't throttled. This would imply the network can see at who the primary account belongs to and would throttle the line no matter what login was used (be it Sympatico or another provider) -- basically, it throttles according to which physical line is being used, not what login is being used. I just can't see that as making sense as traffic shaping would be layer 5 or 6, not layer 1. -- All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer by the stars All of us do time in the gutter, dreamers turn to look at the cars -- Peart/Lee/Lifeson Join Team Helix
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 BozoTheCl0wn
join:2005-04-01 H0H0H0
2 edits | said by Kardinal  This would imply the network can see at who the primary account belongs to and would throttle the line no matter what login was used (be it Sympatico or another provider) -- basically, it throttles according to which physical line is being used, not what login is being used. I just can't see that as making sense as traffic shaping would be layer 5 or 6, not layer 1. That is what DPI boxes do... They can throttle using the upper protocol layers and I think that the ones they use for BS can also see the TSI and other traffic. Anyway I guess we find out soon.
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