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espaeth Digital Plumber Premium,MVM join:2001-04-21 Minneapolis, MN ·voip.ms ·Vitelity VOIP ·Callcentric ·VoiceStick ·ViaTalk ·Comcast ·Embarq	reply to whocares Re: C,C,better be careful about pushing That's a completely different situation. In the case of SouthWest there were very specific safety regulations on the books that they violated and they solicited the help of their federal oversight officials to attempt to cover it up. For Comcast, there is an open ended policy statement that describes the general theme for future broadband policy from the FCC. It's about as general as the "first, do no harm" mantra you hear in the medical profession, but more specific regulation was created so that the use of a scalpel for necessary medical procedures is allowed. (as on the surface, making incisions into the body could be perceived as "doing harm")
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whocares Premium join:2003-07-26 ..	reply to espaeth said by espaeth : said by whocares : since WHEN does or can a private company dictate over how a gov't agency is run. Did lobbying disappear while I was sleeping? This is like the airlines or ALPA telling the FAA how we are going to 'skip" the rules until we get ready to fix a problem,and we can all see or have heard what SWA is going through when they "tried" to do this the FCC need to also come down HARD on reguardless if its castrate,(ie comecast)dish, or dtv, the FCC needs to come down fast & hard,or its going to loose what little authority it has now, -- IF YOU ONLY look for the worst THATS ALL YOUR EVER GOING TO SEE.
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espaeth Digital Plumber Premium,MVM join:2001-04-21 Minneapolis, MN ·voip.ms ·Vitelity VOIP ·Callcentric ·VoiceStick ·ViaTalk ·Comcast ·Embarq	reply to whocares said by whocares : since WHEN does or can a private company dictate over how a gov't agency is run. Did lobbying disappear while I was sleeping?
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RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11	reply to funchords Welcome to my hell. I am dealing with them every day... -- Toolmaster of La Grange.
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funchords Hello Premium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Washington, DC ·Verizon Online DSL ·Skype	reply to RadioDoc said by RadioDoc : He was being ironic. I'm pretty sure he (and anyone else who actually deals with the FCC) knew that already. The 'merger' happened awhile ago when cable was deregulated. Thanks. I must have missed his smiley -- a person as dense as I am sometimes needs a clue. My last dealing with the FCC was the renewal of the ham license I hardly use anymore... -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon "We don't throttle any traffic," -Charlie Douglas, Comcast spokesman, on this report.
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TIGERON join:2008-03-11 Pacifica, CA ·AT&T DSL Service ·Comcast 1 edit	reply to qworster Thank you. History has a way of repeating itself all over again as with the railroad monopolies of the 19th century and MA Bell of the 20th. They too were broken up. Comcasts' days of continuing to get away with murder is nearing an end. »www.gilbertrandolph.com/about-news-64.html This is already spreading to several states and many angry former subscribers are about to get even. WATCH DAVID COHEN, BRIAN ROBERTS AND THE REST OF THE COMCAST BIG WIGS BE TAUGHT A LESSON AND BE BROUGHT BACK DOWN TO EARTH.
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RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11	reply to funchords He was being ironic. I'm pretty sure he (and anyone else who actually deals with the FCC) knew that already. The 'merger' happened awhile ago when cable was deregulated. -- Toolmaster of La Grange.
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TraumaJunkie Premium join:2004-03-05 Knoxville, TN	reply to funchords Throwing my own bias aside for a moment, let's assume you are right. The FCC sends Comcast a "Notice of Apparent Liability" (a fine) and Comcast fights and "wins." 1. The legislation required to give the FCC such power is sure to be passed, OR 2. The next time Comcast wants anything at all that requires approval, the FCC can use this example in demonstration of lack of cooperation, poor history of disclosure, bad-faith bargaining, anti-competitive behavior -- etc., OR 3. Both Comcast should just reverse itself now and admit wrongdoing. This is what Verizon did with the NARAL codes, and it is very clear that the FCC and the public both are going to give that incident a pass. No, Comcast does not have a snowball's chance in hell until either (a) Martin is gone or (2)They change their name to VerizATTcast and have their primary business changed from cable to telephony. Then, as Verizon & ATT have shown, they will have carte blanc to do as they please without any FCC interferance.
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funchords Hello Premium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Washington, DC ·Verizon Online DSL ·Skype	reply to JSRoman said by JSRoman : said by RadioDoc : said by qworster : There's an entire division of the FCC just FOR cable! have you ever heard of the cable bureau? Obviously not... Nobody has heard of the FCC "cable bureau" because there isn't one. There is the Video Division of the Media Bureau which handles Cable TV. But that certainly is not their only responsibility. Too funny. Some things just write themeselves. WRONG!!! Don't show your ignorance by stating things you know nothing about! The Mass Media Bureau and Cable Bureau have merged to become simply the "Media Bureau." -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon "We don't throttle any traffic," -Charlie Douglas, Comcast spokesman, on this report.
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funchords Hello Premium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Washington, DC ·Verizon Online DSL ·Skype	reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail : Comcast isn't a broadcaster like ABC, NBC, KYW, WPVI, etc. They don't have a LICENSE from the FCC that can be suspended. Yes, they do have FCC licenses, but I haven't researched what they cover and whether/if/how they might be in play in this case. »www.fcc.gov/mb/attcomcast/ -- the licenses are enumerated in the Order. I'm sure there are more. said by TKJunkMail : What power the FCC has comes from the Congress when they deregulated cable TV. The power is relatively limited. And when a cable company hasn't liked what the FCC is doing they went to Federal court and won. So, the FCC is pretty much a toothless tiger unless & until Congress passes new laws that changes that. Throwing my own bias aside for a moment, let's assume you are right. The FCC sends Comcast a "Notice of Apparent Liability" (a fine) and Comcast fights and "wins." 1. The legislation required to give the FCC such power is sure to be passed, OR 2. The next time Comcast wants anything at all that requires approval, the FCC can use this example in demonstration of lack of cooperation, poor history of disclosure, bad-faith bargaining, anti-competitive behavior -- etc., OR 3. Both Comcast should just reverse itself now and admit wrongdoing. This is what Verizon did with the NARAL codes, and it is very clear that the FCC and the public both are going to give that incident a pass. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon "We don't throttle any traffic," -Charlie Douglas, Comcast spokesman, on this report.
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JSRoman Premium join:2005-03-10 Callahan, FL	reply to RadioDoc said by RadioDoc : said by qworster : There's an entire division of the FCC just FOR cable! have you ever heard of the cable bureau? Obviously not... Nobody has heard of the FCC "cable bureau" because there isn't one. There is the Video Division of the Media Bureau which handles Cable TV. But that certainly is not their only responsibility. Too funny. Some things just write themeselves. WRONG!!! Don't show your ignorance by stating things you know nothing about! -- »www.seabee.navy.mil
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RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 ·AT&T Midwest	reply to qworster said by qworster : There's an entire division of the FCC just FOR cable! have you ever heard of the cable bureau? Obviously not... Nobody has heard of the FCC "cable bureau" because there isn't one. There is the Video Division of the Media Bureau which handles Cable TV. But that certainly is not their only responsibility. -- Toolmaster of La Grange.
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TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ ·Sprint Mobile Broa.. ·Comcast 1 edit	reply to qworster said by qworster : said by TKJunkMail : said by whocares : the F.C.C. is the authority that hold the licence of each station in its power,they can suspend or at make it very hard on comcast Comcast isn't a broadcaster like ABC, NBC, KYW, WPVI, etc. They don't have a LICENSE from the FCC that can be suspended. What power the FCC has comes from the Congress when they deregulated cable TV. The power is relatively limited. And when a cable company hasn't liked what the FCC is doing they went to Federal court and won. So, the FCC is pretty much a toothless tiger unless & until Congress passes new laws that changes that. WRONG!!! Don't show your ignorance by stating things you know nothing about! Congress specifically GAVE the FCC the power to regulate cable. There's an entire division of the FCC just FOR cable! have you ever heard of the cable bureau? Obviously not... So they have a bureau that deals with cable companies. So what!! Their power is very limited and when they have exercised it, they got slapped down in court. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page
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qworster join:2001-11-25 Los Angeles, CA ·DSL EXTREME ·Brand X Internet ·RoadRunner Cable ·Vonage	reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail : said by whocares : the F.C.C. is the authority that hold the licence of each station in its power,they can suspend or at make it very hard on comcast Comcast isn't a broadcaster like ABC, NBC, KYW, WPVI, etc. They don't have a LICENSE from the FCC that can be suspended. What power the FCC has comes from the Congress when they deregulated cable TV. The power is relatively limited. And when a cable company hasn't liked what the FCC is doing they went to Federal court and won. So, the FCC is pretty much a toothless tiger unless & until Congress passes new laws that changes that. WRONG!!! Don't show your ignorance by stating things you know nothing about! Congress specifically GAVE the FCC the power to regulate cable. There's an entire division of the FCC just FOR cable! have you ever heard of the cable bureau? Obviously not...
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tshirt Premium,MVM join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA ·Comcast	reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail : So, the FCC is pretty much a toothless tiger unless & until Congress passes new laws that changes that. Correct, the FTC would be the one to deal with unfairtrade practices , if any. Even if the FCC had authority, gov't agencies can't respond in a vindictive manner. So what if CC was rude, as long as they didn't fail to respond to a legal request/order the FCC would be unable to punish them just for being rude.
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TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ ·Sprint Mobile Broa.. ·Comcast	reply to whocares said by whocares : the F.C.C. is the authority that hold the licence of each station in its power,they can suspend or at make it very hard on comcast Comcast isn't a broadcaster like ABC, NBC, KYW, WPVI, etc. They don't have a LICENSE from the FCC that can be suspended. What power the FCC has comes from the Congress when they deregulated cable TV. The power is relatively limited. And when a cable company hasn't liked what the FCC is doing they went to Federal court and won. So, the FCC is pretty much a toothless tiger unless & until Congress passes new laws that changes that. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page
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JerryTongue join:2003-04-01 Auburn, WA	reply to whocares Isn't that a slap in the face to the FCC. Before you know it everyone will start to tell the FCC to just kiss off, I will do what I want and you will like it. We have a lot of big battles going on right now with all the ISP's, if the FCC doesn't step up and give a good hard look at everything and make sure all the rules are clear "in Black and White" they will lose any control of anything and we are all going to get screwed in the end. I think now is the time they need to set a example just to let everyone know just who they are.I think this could really hurt the FCC if they dont act hard on this and act very hard so EVERYONE hears it.
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whocares Premium join:2003-07-26 ..	, the cable giant is now arguing that even if their traffic shaping does violate the FCC's policy statement, the FCC lacks the authority to do anything about it. Weather the F.C.C. does or doesn't have the authority, Castrate, (I mean comcast) had better step gently, the F.C.C. is the authority that hold the licence of each station in its power,they can suspend or at make it very hard on comcast,and since WHEN does or can a private company dictate over how a gov't agency is run. maybe the F.C.C. need to know Comcast back down a peg or 2. -- IF YOU ONLY look for the worst THATS ALL YOUR EVER GOING TO SEE.
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