javanox
@cgocable.net
| reply to DownWithShaping
Re: Un-Offical Stop the Traffic Shaping Petition
deffely wish the traffic should stop why euro or any where els it dont exist the internet should be open and free but not over abused like for me a limit of 400-700gb should be find per month i like my anime and over all bell cogeco rogers telus = rip off thank you very much cogeco is chargeing me 80 dollers a month for 100 gb limit witch sucks on a 16 mbps line witch is a mega rip off and a half give me the limit i want for 80 dollers a month my buddy in euro pays like 30-50 a month and gets like 25-35mbps internet speeds and no limits canada and usa got to stop this bs nonsence of telling us what we can and what we can not download. if you stream hd movies from the net it uses 4-10gb to watch the hole movie in matter of days the limit will be reached
SSSSTTTTOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPP the TRAFFFIICCC SHAAAPPPIIINNGGG |
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Sergio88
join:2009-05-21
| I don't mine about Traffic Shaping. I was a victim of Bell throttling but when I stopped my bitTorrent downloading I was back at full speed.
Sure it was fun when I could get movies for free, but 0.99$ for a song and 4$ a movie is not the end of the world. |
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kaiu8
join:2005-04-08
Scarborough, ON
| The problem here is that not everyone is downloading songs or movies, and are being throttled...
The easiest way to share and spread files just happens to also be torrenting, and that sucks... Tons of online game clients require torrenting to download, downloading stuff from fansites often use torrents, sometimes they use stuff such as megaupload which are great, but isn't really something you can click once and run in background (have to do those CAPTCHA images), especially when you need to download and resume multiple files.
If there wasn't a thing such as torrents, and another thing similar came out, I'm sure Bell would throttle that too. And there are always the people who run other programs that are also affected by this throttling. |
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erik2250
join:2007-08-02
Etobicoke, ON | reply to DownWithShaping
HD YouTube video's load extremley slowly, when I host online games they lag, and torrents have legal use (I download ubuntu, and some indy bands). |
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EntraideNet
join:2009-05-20
|  reply to DownWithShaping
said by DownWithShaping :
1. By posting in this thread you agree the traffic shaping must stop.
2. Please only post here once
3. Post how this has effected your ability to use legal services
This might be beneficial.
Point of this thread is to get posts, so that those in sympat direct can see it and let the big guys know when the thread becomes worth there time (300+ posts)
To be polite, even if Bell offer me theirs services free, I think I will refuse ...
Worst service of all, they even lock you up any p2p app is locked up without minding if it a legal use or not, so good peoples pay for the bad ones ...
Voip uses, Legal torrents (Linux,open source,miro,icecast,...), and more ...
Any Bell services or reseller should be closed for ever !!!
Throttling is immoral , illegal and non-sense !!!
Like if we shut up your telephone if you say a banned word, even a word or phrase that don't have the same meaning will be banned...
You pay for a service that you don't get that's all !!!
CRTC should pay for monopolist attitude, they are there to help concurency that we don't get, they even are a threat to the evolution of voip ...
Entraide-net
P.S. I could tell theirs cons for hours so I will shut up now !!! |
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bigbusa
join:2007-09-09
| reply to DownWithShaping
Re: Un-Offical Stop the Traffic Shaping Petition
Well folks, if you want bell to stop, you need to hit them where it counts, hit them in the pocket book $!$!$!$!.
Don’t bother with the CRTC, they don’t regulate the internet.
File a CCTS complaint.
»www.ccts-cprst.ca/en/
»www.ccts-cprst.ca/ots/cf/Existin···ocale=en
Bell will receive the complaint and try to resolve it with you. If the resolution does not satisfy you, and you decide to still pursue, it starts becoming a head ache for bell.
I work for an ISP, I know that the CCTS complaints can be a pain in the ass. And worst of all the average cost to a CCTS complain on the company is between 500-1000$. IF bell is to cheap to spend a few million on bettering the network, then lets make them spend it on legal tie up.
Remember, you don’t have to file a complain on just throttling,. If you have any Complaints you wish to voice to the CCTS, feel free. |
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Mtl_user
@bell.ca | reply to DownWithShaping
I'm thinking of changing ISP in the future, for the price I pay, I think I deserve a bit more... Well, the others ISP are offering more... |
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jdoe71
join:2008-02-07
L0L0L0
| reply to DownWithShaping
I honestly don't know why anyone uses Bell when there are so many other better choices, especially among companies that do not ship jobs out of the country. I am almost a Bell free zone, when the cell contract expires shortly I will have transferred everything from Bell to other companies. Bell does not want competition and competition is what creates value for consumers. Leave Bell now, do us all a favour. |
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DJMASACRE
join:2008-05-27
Nepean, ON
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
3 edits | said by jdoe71  :I honestly don't know why anyone uses Bell when there are so many other better choices, especially among companies that do not ship jobs out of the country. I am almost a Bell free zone, when the cell contract expires shortly I will have transferred everything from Bell to other companies. Bell does not want competition and competition is what creates value for consumers. Leave Bell now, do us all a favour. people are far too ignorant and never think ¨it will happen to me ¨... too arrogant, too special .. are told lies from others and believe it .
far too many people are too easily manipulated and cant be persuaded once they set their minds to something...
could sum up the start of that .
( oh and i forgot, dont understand more than 25% of a subject if that, to fully know what they are getting into before they do )
just like a drunk driver who doesnt know hes about to risk his life and run over a kid before he gets into that car ) ..
something like that 
*EDIT* this is a POSITIVE constructive reply. |
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rik
join:2008-05-25
Vanier, ON | reply to DownWithShaping
yup, sign me up. |
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evil_gusgus
join:2008-04-14
London, ON | reply to DownWithShaping
Re: Un-Offical Stop the Traffic Shaping Petition
yeah sign me up too, im surprised bell doesnt have a class action lawsuit on their hands. |
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search friendly
@videotron.ca
| said by evil_gusgus :yeah sign me up too, im surprised bell doesnt have a class action lawsuit on their hands. They do. One or two of them.
You didn't sign up?
Search the forum. |
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Bagnon
Snoogans
join:2000-11-19
St Catharines, ON
·Bell Sympatico
 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to DownWithShaping
I'd be interested in joining the class-action if there was one central national suit. Having 2 or 3 is not going to do anything. Also, the CRTC is useless. They need to be dismantled. Canada use to be one of the leaders in high-speed internet. Now, we are the face of what the internet should not be in the world. |
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National Wish
@videotron.ca
| National? No.
Maybe that's next?
Inter-provincial against Bell? Yes.
The Quebec consumer Union has one open to both Quebec and Ontario residents per their schedule posted on their website. Info can be found in this forum using search. |
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belluser
@bell.ca
| reply to DownWithShaping
hhmm apparentely this throttling mysteriously stopped around 2 days ago for me, used to pull 600KB/s on torrents only during 2 AM - 8AM, the rest of the day would max out at only 20-30, but now, its 3 in the afternoon and i am once again at 600KB/s  :D...again, started a few days ago and every single day 24 hours my connection remains at full speed.. living in north york dufferin and steeles area..i do not know how this happened, the vpn trick i put in a long time ago didnt work, but now my speeds are back to normal for some reason. guess im lucky |
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AOD
join:2008-01-24
Toronto, ON | reply to DownWithShaping
Tired of our country the most laid back telecom enforcers. i would love to justify that bell owes me 4 dollars a month expense to get around their throttling on FUCKING WHOLESALE |
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hmm
@videotron.ca
| said by AOD :i would love to justify that bell owes me 4 dollars a month expense to get around their throttling on FUCKING WHOLESALE Hmmm. Why don't you?
Send Bell a letter to this effect. Bell legal can be contacted here via their ombudsman@bell.ca |
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Belluser
@bell.ca
| reply to DownWithShaping
LOL I guess i spoke too soon..this time around i am still being throttled, but not at the regular times of 8am-2am....no now i might get lucky and get full speeds during the daytime as well, but i don't count on it. One day im getting full speeds, come back home 3 hours later and find its being capped at 30KB/s AGAIN. My only opinion is how does this company have the right to cap bandwidth usage which already helps their network out, yet at the same time they continue throttling? HMM i have a feeling maybe recording companies are putting a little $$$ in their pockets for all of this. It makes no sense to have throttling when usage is capped monthly ANYWAY! |
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