Thanks Karl. in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20201991 en Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:27:46 EDT Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:27:46 EDT Re: Not everyone, Karl http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20222834 anon :
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

So could free, unlimited service delivered by flying monkeys. Which has about the same probability of happening.
So that's how Google plans to deliver wi-fi without interfering with TV or wireless mikes! Cool! Good catch RadioDoc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20222834 Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:56:47 EDT Re: Not everyone, Karl http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20222803 RadioDoc : So could free, unlimited service delivered by flying monkeys. Which has about the same probability of happening.
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Think what you will about Google, such a scenario could have created an amazing shift in the market.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20211425 Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:23:36 EDT Re: Not everyone, Karl http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20207626 RadioDoc : "Only the prospect of Google or a similarly-minded company winning the spectrum excited us. Imagine if Google's nascent Android mobile platform would have arrived at one of the big Asian manufacturing firms with specs for a 700MHz antenna in place."

Well, you weren't giggling and grinning that Google had somehow fooled the big guys into their tent but are still giving them a pass on intent.

As Karl put it much more generally, Google is an advertising company. The only interest they had in this auction was to make sure their ad model was not totally locked out of whatever "new" services climb from the swamp. You're still talking like they are some benevolent rich uncle making sure the bullies don't take over the playground. In reality they are more like that odd guy in his trench coat sitting on the bench every day, watching.
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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

...is like saying you forced someone with a 70 IQ to say something stupid.
I resemble that remark!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20206053 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:19:56 EDT Not everyone, Karl http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20204226 anon :
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

quote:
a lot of the press swallows it whole without a single critical thought.

All of the press.
Not all of the press:
»www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/···se-loses

You wrote it far better than I did, but not everybody saw this as some kind of Google victory for the ages.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20204226 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:01:25 EDT Re: Thanks Karl. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20203945 Karl Bode : Making Verizon overpay for something is like saying you forced someone with a 70 IQ to say something stupid.

It's negligible and irrelevant. Verizon would have spent twice that if it meant protecting their massive profit margins (caller ID, SMS, MMS) long term -- without batting an eyelash. Verizon is an epic U.S. business operation with one of the most powerful lobbying machine's on K-Street, and Google just started lobbying Uncle Sam last month or so...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20203945 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:55:56 EDT Re: Thanks Karl. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20202084 Karl Bode :
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a lot of the press swallows it whole without a single critical thought.
All of the press.

Every single report I've read this morning suggests Google was "winning by losing":

»news.google.com/news?oe=utf-8&rl···rch+News

It's suddenly like we're in one of those highly progressive self-help education classes where nobody loses.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20202084 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:19:43 EDT Re: Thanks Karl. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20202082 decadent : I think, the price of wireless spectrum has been inflated by Google participation, i.e. telco has overpaid for it. There is saying: "Generals always prepare to fight the last war". Wireless voice market is near saturation and telco won't be able to get the same revenue for data as voice. It is actually the same was with landlines. Voice was true cash cows, not DSL. Otherwise they would not go to video market. I think, in near future they start selling unused spectrum for 30%-50% of original price.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20202082 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:19:19 EDT Re: Thanks Karl. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20202028 Fisamo : Agreed.

Based on the posts in the forum attached to yesterday's article about the spectrum winners, it's apparent that it wasn't just the press that was swallowing Google's releases without much critical thought.

Google didn't fail anyone, as they never promised to win any of the spectrum...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20202028 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:07:35 EDT Thanks Karl. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,20201991 RadioDoc : It's about time Google started to be called what they are, which is an "advertising company concerned with selling ads". I would complete that thought by including "a publicly traded" in that sentence before "advertising". Their duty is to their shareholders and if that somehow benefits a customer here and there then great.

They do marketing by press release. Unfortunately a lot of the press swallows it whole without a single critical thought.

Thanks for shining the light.
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