blastedadsl
join:2008-04-12
Montreal, QC
| reply to Gokuu
Re: Is your P2P being throttled? Post your info here.
bas19-montreal here. Uniserve.
uTorrent graph snapshot taken at 9:25pm Monday April 14, 2008. Upload traffic throttled at around 30kB/s. Same figures for download speeds.
This starts at past 6pm or 6:30pm (was too busy to check today) and goes on until 6am, it seems, but I have yet to stay that late to verify this.
Uniserve does not openly acknowledge this is going on. They say they will need weeks to conducts "tests". |
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An Onymous
@teksavvy.com
| reply to UT_CK
said by UT_CK  :This next part is concerning the fact that some seem to think that the throttle box is infallible .. Let me gather my thoughts on this subject:
- A magical black box that is made by a Startup in a do or die environment?
- One that is claimed to do wire speed at real time DPI?
- installed and used on customer's site works first time?
- A router would typically be able to do the routing for a packet in a handful of instructions. Companies are making this at full volume production. I would be extremely surprised if the startup would be able to do this within an order of magnitude of horsepower of that of a typical router constraint by a similar retail price while still trying to recoup their R&D cost.
Impossible... Next thing you know is that Bell is not lying. |
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theninjasqua
join:2007-09-26
Oakville, ON
1 edit | reply to TheGrub
Yes its quite well known that he is a Bell employee who has access to this kind of stuff. He was the one who got Bell setup with the direct forum on here. When issues like this have arisen, he has the contacts to get it investigated and hopefully fixed.
edit: »/who/members?rr=288
He's here in the list for authorized members of the sympatico direct forum.
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TheGrub
join:2005-11-07
Canada
1 edit | reply to theninjasqua
Was it ever proven that Deadpool was realy legit ?
And don't worry about the modem / pc / router. I have been torrenting for years with the same equipement. It was clearly throttling ! |
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theninjasqua
join:2007-09-26
Oakville, ON | reply to TheGrub
You might want to pm Deadpool and show him that pic.
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UT_CK
Premium
join:2008-01-28
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to TheGrub
Well, well.... good job on posting that graph . 
Looks like someone finally took a snapshot of throttling going on well into the morning. SO I guess my complaints about it happening are not mere figments of my imagination.
I'm hesitant to post on this issue, since I've been told to not blame the "throttle box" whenever my p2p acitivities gets a good kick in the gonads. 
This next part is concerning the fact that some seem to think that the throttle box is infallible .. and you can time you clock by it.
Sorta like trying to blame everything else but the bad box..
Are you sure it's not your modem .. or maybe you PC ? Or perhaps it might be your router ? .. you know ... the kind of router that wants to limit your speed to cause it to flatline at 30 Kb/s ?
Haha ... don't take me too seriously.. I am simply being sarcastic... to demonstrate a point in this forum.
No throttle boxes were harmed in this post !
Regards,
CK
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TheGrub
join:2005-11-07
Canada
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Gokuu
For the first time here i was throttled last night.
stuck at 30k/sec. It started back to go to normal speed at about 5:30 AM.
I thought that the throttle stopped at 2AM ??? |
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Shikomu
join:2007-11-16
Ontario | reply to Gokuu
Just noticed Throttle here lately 30k/s
Burlington, Ontario
Very !@$@$#$@ off !! |
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LazyKid
join:2008-04-01
Montreal, QC | reply to Gokuu
yup my p2p is being throttled also ... i get 30kb/s everyday ....if i'm lucky i get 40-50kb/s sometimes ...
i need it fixed or i'm seriously gonna go crazy ..lol |
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we_are_zog
@teksavvy.com | reply to Gokuu
bas4-hamilton14 is being throttled. ~27K up and down. Its the first time I've noticed it. |
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gord27
join:2005-05-01
Mississauga, ON | reply to Gokuu
jmez, you should only need one port for bt not a range. as was said above, some of the ports you are trying to use are blacklisted by many trackers and clients. |
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theninjasqua
join:2007-09-26
Oakville, ON
| reply to jfmezei
It sounds like you might not have your torrent client setup right or the network configured right to forward the ports. What torrent client are you using? The slow speeds are not necessarily to blame on the throttling, with torrents there are a lot of factors involved that effect the speed you can get. Even though you said there were lots of peers and seeds, it doesn't mean you were connected to all of them.
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mr_hexen
join:2007-08-02
Brampton, ON | reply to gord27
same thing was happening to me last night. Every 20-25 minutes it was like the engine gave up and i jumped to 500kB/sec, then shortly after, back down to 60kB/sec |
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jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX
| reply to jfmezei
Since about 08:00, my download rates have shot up. I have seen it as high as 218 KB/s. Before 08:00, it never went much about 100.
I suspect Bell limits usage to varying extents outside its defined business hours. Ironic that they would force heavy downloaders to do all theiwr downloading duyring business hours. If we truly affect the network that much, you'd think they would want to protect business users first by throttling during business hours so business users can do their simple HTTP without being disturbed by neighbours downloading video and music. |
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jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX
| reply to jfmezei
At around 5:00 to 5:30, rates increased to about 50-55KB/s from 25. Now, it is just past 07:00 and I just hit 100 recently (but now down to 73).
Estimates now down to 3 days to download instead of up to 19 days I saw during throttling.
Since about 20:00, (11 hours), I have downloaded 634 MB, and uploaded 517.
That is 57 megabytes per hour. Or roughly 16KB/s average. Half of what Bell says it is throttling at, and that includes a period without throttling. (I've just seen it go to 120KB/s) |
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jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX
| reply to jfmezei
02:00 came and went. Nothing changed.
But after about 02:30, speeds did pickup, I am now betwee 34 and 50KB/s. (I was at about 10-25 before).
On torrent has 35 peers, the other has 45 peers. I am respectively at 2.1 and 3.2%, and most of the peers have plenty more content than I do, so I should be able to get a much higher speed.
Damned you BELL !
If they're to have specicic hours for throttling, they shoudl stick to them. This is absolutely unacceptable. Am I expected to stay up all night to wait to see if I can finally download what I want to download ?
If Bell removed their &?%&?%*&?$ throttling, I would have long abo been done downloading these files and be asleep now. But as it stands, I am still "bothering" Bell,s network and forcing that &*%?$%*&%$ throttling box to Fire trUCK with traffic to disrupt it.
On the good news side, the download for one file went down from 19 days to 4 days The other one went from 8 days down to 5. |
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pnjunction
Teksavvy Premium
Premium
join:2008-01-24
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Gokuu
said by SpinUp :I'm being throttled for the first time today in Hamilton: bas2-hamilton14on the speedtouch modems, you can log in on the command line (telnet) and use the command ppp iflist to find your BAS. Nice. You can get the info in DMT as well by sending that command on the info2 tab and looking near the bottom. I knew there had to be way to get from DMT rather than the HTTP interface.
I haven't been throttled yet, so I'm not going to give out my BAS at the moment. |
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jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX
| reply to jfmezei
Bell is definitely listening to this board. Download rate now down to 5 KB/s :-( :-( :-( :-(
But those precious minutes at 45 KB/s allowed the software to chop a full day off : now down to only 17 days to download the stuff !
Will see if at 01:00, Bell will allow the rates to go up to 60. like it did last time I tried to download something. |
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jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX
| reply to Mersault
A little bit after midnight, the download rate increased from roughly 25KB/s to roughly 45 KB/s.
Looks like Bell is having random implementation of its goddammend throttling engines.
With reguards to 6800, I will look into changing it. One reason I used it was that I can combine this as a single block if IPs to direct to my Mac on the router's NAT table. That table is full at the moment :-( Wasn't aware that it would have problems with 6800. |
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Mersault
join:2007-10-26
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to jfmezei
said by jfmezei :I am getting a constant stream of connect requests to my port 6800 (configured Bittorrent to use from 6800 to 6900). Probably more than 1 per second. Is this an indication that Bell is constantly sendingsome reset forged packets, with the remote guy then trying to reconnect to me ? I'd recommend picking a higher port. Lots of trackers and even some clients will block traffic from port 6800, to avoid malicious hosts. I recommend something above 16000, for no particular reason at all.
As for whether this is an indication of Bell screwing with your connection through resets, I cannot say, but I think they're in favour of just slowing the packets down enough that TCP's natural traffic congestions takes care of the rest. |
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