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EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
reply to PolarBear
Re: Making the wrong point

Hm? If you call me on Vonage, the call is going to go over regular phone lines at some point to reach me... the call may not start out on the telephone network, but it'll go there eventually if you're calling someone on POTS.


PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301

join:2005-01-03
Riverside, WA
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said by EPS See Profile :

Hm? If you call me on Vonage, the call is going to go over regular phone lines at some point to reach me... the call may not start out on the telephone network, but it'll go there eventually if you're calling someone on POTS.
Yes, the call may go over POTS lines. Lines that Vonage does NOT own, and did NOT pay to install. Lines that a DIFFERENT company used the USF to deploy.

As I said, Vonage CANNOT use the USF, thus, they should not be required to pay into it.

zed260

join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN
well what if an isp decides they wanna offer voip also they could sell voip nationwide

but wait they would not be covered under usf even if it goes over there lines

ryobiguy

join:2002-06-22
Martinez, CA
reply to PolarBear
As I said, Vonage CANNOT use the USF, thus, they should not be required to pay into it.
I am forced to pay into Social Security, do you think it'll still be around in 30-40 years when I retire?


PolarBear
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said by ryobiguy See Profile :

As I said, Vonage CANNOT use the USF, thus, they should not be required to pay into it.
I am forced to pay into Social Security, do you think it'll still be around in 30-40 years when I retire?
Apples to oranges.

xsiddalx

join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL
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reply to PolarBear
said by PolarBear See Profile :

said by EPS See Profile :

Hm? If you call me on Vonage, the call is going to go over regular phone lines at some point to reach me... the call may not start out on the telephone network, but it'll go there eventually if you're calling someone on POTS.
Yes, the call may go over POTS lines. Lines that Vonage does NOT own, and did NOT pay to install. Lines that a DIFFERENT company used the USF to deploy.

As I said, Vonage CANNOT use the USF, thus, they should not be required to pay into it.
Vonage can't cuz their fat and happy where they are.

The same argument was made at one time within the cellular companies...
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