  nwrickert sand groper Premium,MVM join:2004-09-04 Geneva, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to Maleficent Re: Spam E-mail Has Gone Down Considerably
I'm guessing your ISP is AT&T. It seems that AT&T has recently instituted some significant spam blocking.
I can assure that the spammers have not given up. It is just that they are being blocked. -- AT&T dsl; Westell 327w modem/router; SuSE 10.1; firefox 2.0.0.12 |
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  Doctor Olds I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me. Premium,VIP join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 clubs:
edit: March 23rd, @06:08PM
| said by nwrickert :It seems that AT&T has recently instituted some significant spam blocking. Which means time will need to be spent looking for lost legit email trapped by these new filters.  -- Whats the point of owning a supercar if you cant scare yourself stupid from time to time? |
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  Grimy Pencil Neck Geek Premium join:2005-01-13 Orange, CA | There's no way to look for lost legit mail. It's being blocked at the edge and no longer makes it into the junk folder. -- "Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself"-Bo Diddley |
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  Doctor Olds I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me. Premium,VIP join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 clubs:
| said by Grimy :There's no way to look for lost legit mail. It's being blocked at the edge and no longer makes it into the junk folder. It doesn't get reported in Web Mail like most filtering systems? That's not good. That means there is no way to fix/flag/forward onto the real email in-boxes any false positives which still do occur. -- Whats the point of owning a supercar if you cant scare yourself stupid from time to time? |
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  Grimy Pencil Neck Geek Premium join:2005-01-13 Orange, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| said by Doctor Olds :It doesn't get reported in Web Mail like most filtering systems? That's not good. That means there is no way to fix/flag/forward onto the real email in-boxes any false positives which still do occur. That's essentially it, I'm afraid. While it's nice to have an empty junk folder, I'm a little worried about how this is going to work out. Time to do some research on the new blocking paradigm they're using. -- "Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself"-Bo Diddley |
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  Doctor Olds I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me. Premium,VIP join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 clubs:
| said by Grimy :said by Doctor Olds :It doesn't get reported in Web Mail like most filtering systems? That's not good. That means there is no way to fix/flag/forward onto the real email in-boxes any false positives which still do occur. That's essentially it, I'm afraid. While it's nice to have an empty junk folder, I'm a little worried about how this is going to work out. Time to do some research on the new blocking paradigm they're using. Please update this topic with your findings as I'm sure there are many interested parties that would like to know what you ultimately uncover.
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Doctor Olds -- Whats the point of owning a supercar if you cant scare yourself stupid from time to time? |
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  Grimy Pencil Neck Geek Premium join:2005-01-13 Orange, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| OK, here's an update:
Over the last three days the situation has improved a lot. Yahoo found the problem, (some kind of mis-configuration with their newly rolled-out mail filters), and is working to correct it.
As to my personal mail, everything seems to be behaving correctly again. All my newsletters are getting through, etc. Spam directed to my junk folder is down by 95%.
I'll give Yahoo credit for quickly acknowledging the problem and fixing it, rather than denying there was something wrong. -- "Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself"-Bo Diddley |
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  EGeezer Summer is passing Premium join:2002-08-04 Country!
·RoadRunner Cable
·AT&T CallVantage
edit: April 11th, @01:18PM
| reply to nwrickert said by nwrickert :I'm guessing your ISP is AT&T. It seems that AT&T has recently instituted some significant spam blocking. I can assure that the spammers have not given up. It is just that they are being blocked. I have noticed a dramatic drop in the amount of spam email in a Yahoo account of mine, from 10-15 a day to 1-2. At one time, I was getting several hundred a week, but that was a year or so ago. The reduction seems to have coincided with the rollout of their changing POP/SMTP to SSL (ports 995/465
The child porn and mortgage stuff has dropped to virtually zero in all my accounts that get spam. The majority is drug stuff with a few software and fake goods spams.
Road Runner instituted a spam blocker a few months ago and it seems fairly effective, but has more false positives than I like. Their web interface is clunky to me, but I can't access the junk mail folder any other way. -- Mayors of New York come from nowhere and go nowhere. Wallace Sayre (apparently, so do governors... ) |
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  Grimy Pencil Neck Geek Premium join:2005-01-13 Orange, CA | I think the POP/SMTP port change is probably coincidental. Yahoo applied those changes to my account at least two years ago and spam wasn't reduced at that time. -- "Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself"-Bo Diddley |
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  EGeezer Summer is passing Premium join:2002-08-04 Country!
·RoadRunner Cable
·AT&T CallVantage
edit: April 12th, @12:24PM
| Thanks for eliminating that -
A thought - the courts are siding with ISPs in their filtering efforts ( see »A (not so)small victory for ISP spam filtering ). Maybe now that they don't have to fear losing lawsuits brought by spammers, they are moving more aggressively.
EDIT - added - see »www.spamlaws.com/cases/optinrealbig.shtml
This case shows how reporting every spam email you can provides ISPs and spam blocker/reporter services with large amounts of valid, court-acceptable evidence that a spammer is indeed sending emails to recipients who don't want them or didn't sign up for them.
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