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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/927346"><b>Tzale</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Pjr <A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  jvmorris <A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><i>How on earth do you guys put up with this crap?</i><br> </div>By ignoring it :)<br><br>TBH the banning of Christmas decorations passed me by. Or was it that they were scared they'd fall on someones head? That's something else we have imported from the US: the sue culture. Slipped over on the ice and sprained an ankle really rather badly? Nasty bruise? Sue somebody, anybody, for as much as you can. <br> </div>The beauty is we get a lot of our law traditions from your country... Not to mention, the majority of "American" culture is an anglo culture... America is more closely linked to the UK than to any other foreign country.<br><br>-Tzale<br><small>--<br>Neoconservatives (G.W.B) are not true conservatives. A conservative believes in defending the Constitution. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - RON PAUL 2008 &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html" >www.usconstitution.net/const.html</A> <br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Well, to be perfectly frank, . . .<br><br>(Don't you hate that phrase?  And just <b>who</b> is Perfectly Frank anyway?  I mean, really . . . Okay, I've got Freeborn John down now, but Perfectly Frank, I dunno.)<br><br>At any rate, I only feel able to comment on your query for myself.<br><br>Yes.  ;)<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : <small><div class="bquote"><small>said by  jvmorris <A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I never did grasp his point.  <small>(As it were and so to speak.)</small><br> </div></small><br><br>That must have been to much relief all round then? :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Or, as my older brother was fond of saying, "It's all in the wrist!"  Not being particularly fond of tennis in the first place, I never did grasp his point.  <small>(As it were and so to speak.)</small><br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/448758"><b>John2g</b></A> : Laura Bush: "We have the weekend free darling, what would you like to do?"<br>George Bush: "I'm not sure. Let's think..."<br>Laura Bush: "No, let's do something that you can do too." <br><small>--<br>Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : If I may correct you, dave, it's actually an executive order signed by the current President after talking to God one night.  The order was written by Alberto Gonzales and incorporated several refinements suggested by Vice-President Cheney.<br><br>Yes, it's true that there is an amazing similarity in God's voice and that of the Vice President but that simply explains why the President values everything said by the V. P.<br><br>Ha, ha . . . only kidding.  <br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : Too funny! Another stunning example  of thee land of the free...<br><br> :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/917654"><b>pauldenton</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  dave <A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  wonko3fc <A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>I wasn't aware that there was any evidence of original humor originating from the USA given the tightly constrained confines within what passes for 'satire' and the comprehensive absence of Irony.</div>I believe there are federal laws about that.  As soon as an American utters something which might be construed as witty, he is required to follow it up with "ha, ha, only kidding", thus rendering the joke inert and harmless.<br> </div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/lenny.html" >www.bobdylan.com/songs/lenny.html</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  wonko3fc <A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I wasn't aware that there was any evidence of original humor originating from the USA given the tightly constrained confines within what passes for 'satire' and the comprehensive absence of Irony.</div>I believe there are federal laws about that.  As soon as an American utters something which might be construed as witty, he is required to follow it up with "ha, ha, only kidding", thus rendering the joke inert and harmless.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : <small><div class="bquote"><small>said by  jvmorris <A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br> How many British residents have <i>actually</i> been injured during Guy Fawkes celebrations</div></small><br><br>Sadly, quite a lot every year.... :(<br><br>I also have some vague memory of some poor sole being killed putting up street decor for Crimble and of course, I've no doubt several folks sustain injurys one way or another through domestic decor...<br><br>IMHO the problem is the imported littigation culture as alluded to previously in this thread. FUD (Fear Uncertainty & Doubt) has caused 'officialdom' to become 'overprotective' aka Nanny State as a consequence. All rather a shame really; its taken the fun out of life in an attempt to 'engineer' common sence...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : <b>Oh, quit pushing me, willya?</b>  ;)  <br><br>The only reason I understood nemo's reference to 'Cockney rhyming slang' was due to a Dick Francis novel that I must have first read about 20 years ago!  (I tend to re-read them fairly often, along with Arthur Conan Doyle, Raymond Chandler, and Dashiel Hammett.)<br><br>The only way I'll ever pick up on most of this stuff is if the Home Office gets off my butt and lets me visit my wife in England regularly with no hassle (something that does not appear to currently be on their agenda, as long as they can collect some more revenues for allowing me this 'privilege'.)<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Pjr <A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  jvmorris <A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><i>How on earth do you guys put up with this crap?</i><br> </div>By ignoring it :)</div><b>Exactly</b> (and what was the title of this thread initially, once again)?  <i>The English ignore too much as their culture is stripped away from them.</i>  You go whimpering into that dark night . . . . (restricting your complaints either to the home fires or those few local pubs in which you are likely to know everyone present).<br><br>We tend to be a <i>bit</i> more noisy about that here in the US (and unfortunately <b>only</b> a bit more noisy these days), but then we tend to throw the bastards out of office.  I think what really amazes me about the English is that your papers (which, admittedly are more competitive than most of ours) are certainly willing, for the most part, to criticize the Government freely, <i>but the electorate never seems to respond, even though, for the most part, they reflect the attitudes in the daily rags</i>.  (Okay, the BBC, especially recently, has become the mouthpiece for politically correct positions as espoused by the Labour Party.)<br><br>Could it be that over here (US) a great number of our elected representatives <b>must</b> stand for re-election every two (or four) years, whereas your situation is every (what?) five or six years, at best?  Admittedly, our basic 2/4 year electoral cycle has its good points and its bad points, but the <b>real</b> problem today in the US is that the electorate seems to have about a 24-hour memory.  :(<br><br><div class="bquote">TBH the banning of Christmas decorations passed me by. Or was it that they were scared they'd fall on someones head? </div>Oh, gimme a break, <b>you</b> have an established religion in the UK, we don't in the US, but <b>our</b> 'Christmas' decorations are far more extensive than <b>yours</b>! (Okay, it's more marketing oriented here in the US than in the UK, but I've always found your decorations both more tasteful and more modest.)  Oh, sure our (Christian) weekly church attendance is much more than yours, but you have more ostensible Christians (as a percentage of the population) than we do.  We have a higher percentage of practicing Jews and Muslims than you do.  (Okay, you beat us out on Hindus and Sikhs, but there doesn't seem to be any problem with the Diwali celebrations.)<br><br>Let me ask you <b>this</b>:  How many Brits have <i>actually</i> been injured in putting up Christmas decorations along public streets in the UK without using cherry pickers to do so in the past 100 years?  How many members of the general public have <i>actually</i> been injured by falling decorations in the past 100 years (due to a failure to use cherry pickers to install them, of course)?  How many British residents have <i>actually</i> been injured during Guy Fawkes celebrations (not to mention Diwali) as compared to Americans celebrating the 4th of July?  <br><br>(Oh heck, I'll need to come back later and finish this up); something else has come up.  <br> <br><div class="bquote">That's something else we have imported from the US: the sue culture. Slipped over on the ice and sprained an ankle really rather badly? Nasty bruise? Sue somebody, anybody, for as much as you can. <br> </div><br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : "Elf & Safely" very good like "Darby & Joan" no doubt?<br><br>Oh Wikipedia is busy off the back of these threads isn't it? Bung in another couple of Blades Dave, DSLReports is active again....<br><br>Addendum: I just realised Blades are a bit old fasioned these days...Esp for this forum... Dave! Scrub the blades, spin up a couple of additional VM's mate!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Oh, sir!  Now 'elf' is surely some sort of elf, but 'safely', I'm fairly certain must be some sort of troll.  ;)<br><br>After only six weeks' absence, I can't recall his name (I really hate that), but you've got at least one satirist in one of the major daily rags who also draws.  Still, I've never seen the representation of elf and safely that I keep hoping for.  <br><br>Still, you have a point here.  With the exception of the Daily Show (Jon Stewart), the Colbert Report, and the occasional zinger from Olbermann on Countdown, we're long past the heyday of satire and irony here in the US (too complex for most of us these days, I suspect).  We've got no new Lenny Bruce, Mort Sahl, Tim Lehrer and TW3 is, alas, long gone.  More's the pity.  I think George Carlin tries, but he's getting on a bit these days.  The snappy, clever dialog from films of the 30s and 40s is also long gone.  Christ, (pardon my French), we don't even have a Pubmaster!  :D<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : I wasn't aware that there was any evidence of original humor originating from the USA given the tightly constrained confines within what passes for 'satire' and the comprehensive absence of Irony.<br><br><small>NB: Watch Tzale come back at me now and prove me right;-)</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1300622"><b>Pjr</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  jvmorris <A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><i>How on earth do you guys put up with this crap?</i><br> </div>By ignoring it :)<br><br>TBH the banning of Christmas decorations passed me by. Or was it that they were scared they'd fall on someones head? That's something else we have imported from the US: the sue culture. Slipped over on the ice and sprained an ankle really rather badly? Nasty bruise? Sue somebody, anybody, for as much as you can. <br><small>--<br>It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to the wall.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Ehh?  Is it <b>really</b> going to be necessary for me (a Yank, no less) to explain to you poor Brits what's wrong with Elf and Safely????  :(  Given the amount of criticism they routinely receive in the British media, I figure there must be a good caricature of elf and safely <i>somewhere</i>, although I must admit that I've never seen it.  <br><br>At the moment, they're doing an excellent job of wiping out fetes throughout the UK, never mind things like Christmas (or wintertime holiday, if you prefer) decorations throughout the UK, but that's only the beginning of their transgressions.<br><br><i>How on earth do you guys put up with this crap?</i><br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/927346"><b>Tzale</b></A> : Quite an interesting "dictionary" for translation between American and International (U.K.) English..<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.peak.org/~jeremy/dictionary/dictionary/dictionary.php" >www.peak.org/~jeremy/dictionary/&middot;&middot;&middot;nary.php</A><br><br>-Tzale]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  wonko3fc <A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>. . . Indeed, having spent what feels like a lifetime on and off the clutch in the daily commute, my personal bliss moment came when the manual transmission was replaced with an automatic one - I tell ya, there is no going back now....<br> </div>Ahhhh, the deeper nuances of English written communications!  :)  But again, this is really a cultural difference between the US and the UK.  After all, most US commuters are the only occupants of their vehicle during the daily commute, so there's much less opportunity for clutching -- if you catch my meaning, if you get my drift.  ;)<br><br><b>Addendum:</b>  Unfortunately, I can no longer recall whether "If you catch my meaning, if you get my drift ..." comes from Beyond the Fringe, a most definitely English group or Firesign Theater, a most definitely American group of satirists.  The two groups' performances are now so deeply interwoven into my psyche that it's impossible for me to separate them. . . . Why, I suppose I'll just have to listen to the original recordings again!   ;)  (And, while I'm at it, I think I might as well go ahead and listen once again to the <i>complete</i> audio transcripts of "The Goons Show", which John2g so graciously provided lo those many years ago.  And thank you for that, John.)<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  wonko3fc <A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><small><div class="bquote"><small>said by  jvmorris <A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br> (Perhaps we could have a lively discussion on whether Tony sucked more than Dubya?  ;) )</div></small><br><br>OOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo YUK!<br><br>To much information!<br><br>That's a mental image I'm gonna have to try to purge now... Thanks JV!<br> </div>Ooooohhhh!!!  Didn't think of it that way when I posted, but I see your point!  :D<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : <small><div class="bquote"><small>said by  jvmorris <A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> (Perhaps we could have a lively discussion on whether Tony sucked more than Dubya?  ;) )</div></small><br><br>OOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo YUK!<br><br>To much information!<br><br>That's a mental image I'm gonna have to try to purge now... Thanks JV!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Oh, thanks for changing the header on your reply.  I just went back and changed it on mine to "Elf and Safely".<br><br><b>But</b> you ended up talking about auto vs manual transmissions!  :)<br><br>At any rate, I'd much rather have a manual transmission in London traffic, if only for the better gas mileage.  (And it does wonders to keep the muscles in the left leg in shape.  ;) ).  But, outside of London, I spend very little time in city traffic.  <b>But</b> on the country roads out in Shropshire, I'd <b>much</b> rather have a manual transmission (and the four-wheel drive) when I end up on a super-saturated shoulder (or even worse a ditch) so that a tractor (and you do indeed have huge farm tractors over there) needs to get past me.  (I'm talking oncoming traffic here, guys.)  And ditto for those nasty little situations in which you encounter icy patches on the hilly country roads in the wintertime.<br><br>As for your new header, I would have to say that there are things about England that I really like that I cannot find in the US and vice versa.  And, conversely, there are things about England that I dislike and things about America that I really dislike, but -- for the most part -- these are distinct lists.  (Perhaps we could have a lively discussion on whether Tony sucked more than Dubya?  ;) )<br><br>Quite frankly, this is one reason why I'd prefer to spend summer and winter in the UK (much milder in both instances than here in Virginia).  And Christmas in England has Christmas in the US beat, hands down. Still, I like to spend spring and (especially) autumn in the US (we get better autumn foliage colors). <br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/401836"><b>wonko3fc</b></A> : Not to deviate to far of thread but I quite like having automatic transmission. Indeed, having spent what feels like a lifetime on and off the clutch in the daily commute, my personal bliss moment came when the manual transmission was replaced with an automatic one - I tell ya, there is no going back now....]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:56:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Well, seriously, we could always start with elf and safely.  :)<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/229972"><b>PC Doc 54</b></A> : Actually no, the good old ignore button is what came next ... ahh, bliss, no more nimrod.<br><br>I know I should have avoided getting involved in a debate with the idiot, but it just pisses me off when I see stupid, ignorant, bigoted crap like that being spewed. <br><br>Sadly now the thread will probably disappear ... it would be nice if we could have had a genuine discussion on the subject without someone crapping all over it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Noooo, nemo . . A Colt 45 Automatic comes next.  ;)<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><b>nemo1966</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  PC Doc 54 <A HREF="/useremail/u/229972"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  nemo1966 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>    :</small><br><br>I think you just proved my case  :p<br></div>Well then it backfired ... I live in New York but I was born and raised in Berkshire mate ... sorry to disappoint you :)<br><br> </div>WTF you claim to be born and raised in Britain but you didn't know what a "Septic" was????????????<br><br>BTW Yanks are thick, you may have been born in England you you have obviously gone down a lot since then... hence trying to correct my spelling etc when you actually know little of what you are trying to correct - a typical Yank trait  :D<br><br>What next? well I suggest try shouting or bullying, that always comes next when Yanks can't get their own way  ;)<br><small>--<br><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  PC Doc 54 <A HREF="/useremail/u/229972"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  nemo1966 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>    :</small><br><br>I think you just proved my case  :p<br></div>Well then it backfired ... I live in New York but I was born and raised in Berkshire mate ... sorry to disappoint you :)</div>Well, I told you it was deliberate, but Cockney Rhyming Slang -- haven't heard that mentioned in years!<br><br><div class="bquote">Now - even though I realize the futility of taking on a mind like Nemo's, ... </div>Recommend you edit the above phrase; possibly replace "taking on" with "contending with", just for starters.  Otherwise, I'll have nightmares tonight.  ;)<br><div class="bquote">I feel I must point out some of your obvious misunderstandings: Americans in general are far from stupid, a LOT of Brits do NOT hate American tv or American humor, (and I still catch British tv so please don't try to tell me Office, Extras, Mile High, Emmerdale Farm, Crossroads or Coronation Street are your idea of better quality tv), and most of us know how to drive what we call a stick shift vehicle. I've personally owned 3 since I got here, and my (US born) girlfriend still has 2 and won't drive anything else.</div>Indeed, I've owned seven cars in the US, only two had automatic transmissions.  After trying three different rental cars with automatic transmissions on English country roads, it was a no-brainer to buy a manual transmission car for use over there, also.<br><div class="bquote">On the other hand, in response to the original post: Mayonnaise? I've never heard of using mayo on food in England, I've always associated that with US deli sandwiches. And please, stop with the generalization that English food sucks, that is so 1960's!</div>Mayo?  Nor have I.  (Maybe Tzale eats exclusively at motorway rest stops, MacDonalds, Burger King, and Pizza Hut?)  Or maybe he's thinking of Kraft salad cream?  (Something I don't particularly care for myself.)  And, like you, I have no problem with standard English fare.  It's a pity, however, how difficult it can be to find good Szechuan Chinese over there.<br><div class="bquote">Yes a lot of stuff is closed on Sunday, what a wonderful concept ... a day when there's no pressure to run out shopping, spending money you don't have, being dragged through clothing stores by the wife ... ahhh, bliss!</div>As an American, that was a bit unusual at first, but I've become accustomed to it.  And, like you, I've come to the conclusion, it's got it's good points.  (The real problem is when Christmas and Boxing Day fall on a weekend!  ;) )<br><div class="bquote">And, having grown up there, I can say I was never taught to equate American with stupid. In fact if anything I always had the greatest respect for the US, and now that I visit England with an American accent, I am almost always treated with respect. Quite frankly, with the damage our current president has done to the image of America, that amazes me! </div>And, going the other direction (from US to UK), my experiences are more like yours than Tzale's.  I think it's fairly obvious that I'm an American (but oddly a lot of Englishman assume I'm Canadian).  <br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/229972"><b>PC Doc 54</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  nemo1966 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</small><br><br>I think you just proved my case  :p<br></div>Well then it backfired ... I live in New York but I was born and raised in Berkshire mate ... sorry to disappoint you :)<br><br>Now - even though I realize the futility of taking on a mind like Nemo's, I feel I must point out some of your obvious misunderstandings: Americans in general are far from stupid, a LOT of Brits do NOT hate American tv or American humor, (and I still catch British tv so please don't try to tell me Office, Extras, Mile High, Emmerdale Farm, Crossroads or Coronation Street are your idea of better quality tv), and most of us know how to drive what we call a stick shift vehicle. I've personally owned 3 since I got here, and my (US born) girlfriend still has 2 and won't drive anything else.<br><br>On the other hand, in response to the original post: Mayonnaise? I've never heard of using mayo on food in England, I've always associated that with US deli sandwiches. And please, stop with the generalization that English food sucks, that is so 1960's!<br> <br>Yes a lot of stuff is closed on Sunday, what a wonderful concept ... a day when there's no pressure to run out shopping, spending money you don't have, being dragged through clothing stores by the wife ... ahhh, bliss!<br><br>And, having grown up there, I can say I was never taught to equate American with stupid. In fact if anything I always had the greatest respect for the US, and now that I visit England with an American accent, I am almost always treated with respect. Quite frankly, with the damage our current president has done to the image of America, that amazes me!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><b>nemo1966</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  PC Doc 54 <A HREF="/useremail/u/229972"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  jvmorris <A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  nemo1966 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Septics can't even drive manual cars  ;)</div>Ahhh!! Okay!!! So, I'm not a septic.  :D</div>You have to wonder about someone who comments on another country's language - "Septics are stupid... they even had to dumb down the language so they could cope with it" - and manages to get a spelling mistake in their own statement! Twice!! :D<br> </div>??? lost me, what two spelling mistakes are there in that statement?<br><br>Edit:<br>I see you think I mean't "Sceptic".<br><br>"Septic Tank" Cockney Rhyming slang for "Yank".<br><br>Hence you are a "Septic" (A Yank - Yankee) <br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septic_tank" >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septic_tank</A>  - this reference gives a description of a real septic tank and the slang version. The real version comes quite close  :D<br><br>I think you just proved my case  :p<br><br>Another Edit:<br>Carrying on from that, I would be classed as a "Listerine"... Listerine is an Anti-septic. Anti-septic = Anti-Yank.<br><br>Get it?  ;)<br><br><small>--<br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : Actually, who ... oh, it was <i>nemo</i>!!!  :D<br><br><small>(Actually, I suspect that was a deliberate pun.)</small><br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/229972"><b>PC Doc 54</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  jvmorris <A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  nemo1966 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Septics can't even drive manual cars  ;)</div>Ahhh!! Okay!!! So, I'm not a septic.  :D</div>You have to wonder about someone who comments on another country's language - "Septics are stupid... they even had to dumb down the language so they could cope with it" - and manages to get a spelling mistake in their own statement! Twice!! :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/360338"><b>jvmorris</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  nemo1966 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Septics can't even drive manual cars  ;)<br> </div>Ahhh!! Okay!!! So, I'm not a septic.  :D<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>    Joseph V. Morris</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1289819"><b>nemo1966</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Tzale <A HREF="/useremail/u/927346"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>5.Being treated like an American. I don't want to accuse all English people of acting rude or snotty toward Americans because some are very pleasant, but after seven weeks I've come to the conclusion that sometime in grade school English children are taught to equate 'stupid' with 'American.' Yes, we are arguably louder and more demanding, but that doesn't mean we're all ignorant.  </div>Couple of points, Septics are stupid... they even had to dumb down the language so they could cope with it  ;)<br><br>Was that reply <strike>colourful</strike> colorful enough for you?<br><br><div class="bquote">Interestingly enough, British radios blare American pop music, televisions broadcast American t.v. shows and the movies play American flicks. If we're so dumb, why do you cherish our popular culture? And one last thing: any country that manufactures the Spice Girls shouldn't throw stones at glass houses ...<br></div>Believe it or not most Britons hate the US television and a lot of US music (and American humour... give me a break), however like high taxes and immigration they are forced down our throats...<br><br>Sorry to burst your bubble  :D<br><br><div class="bquote">I presume you do realize that you've just invited someone to start a thread entitled "Why New Yorkers Suck"? <br></div>I suppose you "realise" "New Yorkers Suck" would be more accurate  ;)<br><br><small>--<br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/842201"><b>GeorgeCr</b></A> : 1. I never have mayo. Food drenched in ketchup is more likely.<br><br>2. Why visit a library, when you can find everything online?<br><br>3. Most places open 10:30-16:30 on Sunday. I agree more time would be better.<br><br>4. Some pubs open later, it depends on their licensing hours. On New Year's Eve they apply for a licensing extension to open late.  :uhh:<br><br>5. We export the Spice Girls to places like America.  :D<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/helix">Team Helix</a> | <A HREF="http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/seti">SETI</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/844536"><b>Action_Man</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Tzale <A HREF="/useremail/u/927346"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I've come to the conclusion that sometime in grade school English children are taught to equate 'stupid' with 'American.<br> </div>Although quite untrue, you probably qualify with that statement, we treat people how we find them ;) ... <br><small>--<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.supermacro.net/" >www.supermacro.net/</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/927346"><b>Tzale</b></A> : 1. Mayonnaise. Of course, as any New Yorker would, I have to devote some space to England's bland, greasy and simply miserable cuisine. Trite, but necessary. Why every British food establishment coats their entire meno in the bland, tasteless dressing baffles me. Turkey tastes a lot better when it is not drenched in mayo and covered in plastic for five hours. Trust me.<br><br>2.The library. While obviously this is exclusive to Oxford and not the nation as a whole, the oh-so-wonderful Bodleian has caused me more grief than my tutorials (well, that's a slight exaggeration). First of all, as an associate student with visiting status, I can only go to the Bod between 5 and 10 p.m. Maybe I have restricted hours because I hold an American passport (see number 5), maybe not. Since I am one of the four college students who happens to be a morning person, adhering to this ridiculous schedule requires that I rearrange my study habits. In addition to my limited access, not being able to access to a photocopier (I know, I know, copyright laws) coupled with having to request books from this mysterious book stack turns another otherwise boring trip to the library into an irritating and boring experience in the bureaucratic Bod.<br><br>3.Everything is closed on Sunday. For the people who live in the real world (i.e. don't go to college) Sunday is a day to relax, spend time with the family, and depending on your religious affiliation, for worship. For many college students, however, it's time to run errands and cram before Monday or Tuesday's tutorial. However, neither of tasks are feasible when store windows are dark and the librarians also enjoy their day off. Ironically, the only life brewing along the streets is from the liquor stores and the pubs ...<br><br>4.Closing times. Everything closes around the time the sun sets, and for a country that is between 50 and 60 degrees North latitude, that's pretty damn early. I'm from New York, so I am accustomed to the 24-hour schedule of the city that never sleeps. While the pubs do remain open until a whopping 11pm, that's not too late considering on a Saturday night back home when my clock reads 11pm I am still contemplating which shoes to wear and if I need my warm coat. What are English people hanging out in pubs going to do on New Year's Eve - ring in the new year in their pyjamas?<br><br>5.Being treated like an American. I don't want to accuse all English people of acting rude or snotty toward Americans because some are very pleasant, but after seven weeks I've come to the conclusion that sometime in grade school English children are taught to equate 'stupid' with 'American.' Yes, we are arguably louder and more demanding, but that doesn't mean we're all ignorant. Interestingly enough, British radios blare American pop music, televisions broadcast American t.v. shows and the movies play American flicks. If we're so dumb, why do you cherish our popular culture? And one last thing: any country that manufactures the Spice Girls shouldn't throw stones at glass houses ...<br><small>--<br>Neoconservatives (G.W.B) are not real conservatives. A conservative believes in defending the Constitution. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - RON PAUL 2008 &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html" >www.usconstitution.net/const.html</A> <br></small>]]></description>
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