Steve Thresher
@co.uk
|  Adding G4100 Router and NWA3100 AP's to an existing network
Could someone offer some advice on how to configure the router and access points when adding to an existing network. Current configuration is as follows:
cable modem -> linksys router -> existing pc's
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The linksys router is on 192.168.1.1
The zyxel router is on WAN 192.168.1.2 and LAN 192.168.2.1
The access points are on 192.168.2.2 + 192.168.2.3 etc.
I can access the internet from a PC connected to the router via wired or wireless connection but cannot configure or ping the access points. Also cannot create a wireless connection to the access points even though the SSID is visible. I have tried access point mode and MBSSID.
I really feel I'm missing something obvious! |
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Bwuutje
join:2005-01-10
| Your setup might work.
However: the G-4100 can not roam or do WDS with the NWA-3100s. So they can not "communicate" with each other. Also since you can not disable the wireless of the G-4100 (hey, its a hotspot !), the NWA-3100s need to have another wireless network name (SSID) than the G-4100.
So two SSID's, one for the G-4100, one for the 3100s. You just wont use the G-4100 SSID, remove the antennas or use a thin foil head :P
You have to do some tweaking of the printer page of the G-4100 but it will work.
Keep in mind that by default you can not access the 3100s from the linksys or the other 'existing pcs'.
Bwuutje. |
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Steve Thresher
@btcentralplus.com
| Thanks for the info. The package was recommended by a professional outfit so I assumed the G4100 would work the access points.
I don't have a problem with crossing subnets from the 'existing pcs' but would you mind providing more detailed information on what you mean by 'tweak the printer page'? |
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Anav
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Dartmouth, NS | Not sure what your trying to do, but the G4100 can poll the APs to make sure they are working (functional).
What is it that you need to be able to do?? |
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Steve Thresher
@btcentralplus.com
| I thought the g4100 router would be another hotspot working in conjunction with the AP's.
At the moment I cannot connect to the AP's from a PC connected to the G4100 router or to the AP's via wireless even though I can see the SSID. As I said in my original post I've tried the guest_ssid and SSID03 in both 'access point' and MBSSID modes. It's as if the access point cannot talk to the router so there is no network to join. Does this make any sense?
What did you mean by poll the access points? |
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Anav
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Dartmouth, NS
1 edit | The G4100 has its own wifi capability but its limited to standard ranges. If you want to extend the wifi hotspot, lets say to another floor or same floor but to an area receiving weak to none signal you can attach APs to the G4100 router via its LAN ports.
Not quite sure what difficulty your having???
You do not need to setup anything special on the APs.
I would start the DHCP service on the G4100 at lets say 192.168.10.5 (so that the APs are set statically as 192.168.2.2, and .3 etc - no confusion.
No security setup except for blocking other wifi users.
(Intra BSS blocking is probably what that is caLLED).
Other than that, just ensure channel separation. |
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Steve Thresher
@btcentralplus.com
| Thanks for your help Anav. The difficulty I'm having is connecting to the wireless network on the access point. Windows can see the SSID of the network but cannot join it. I believe the problem is being caused by using the same SSID on the router as on the access points. I know I claimed I had tested multiple SSID's but I may not have with the current configuration (I've been through several different configurations in an attempt to get this to work!).
I'll have another go following the advice from this thread and post again if I still have a problem.
Thanks again. |
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Anav
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Dartmouth, NS | Yeah, have not tried it, but perhaps a diff essid name for each AP........ Hotspot 1 being the router, hotspot 2.3.4 and so on for each AP.
The AP is really transparent in the mix (correct LANIP and no security settings). |
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dslpartner
join:2005-02-18
| reply to Steve Thresher
Are the AP's connected to the G4100 with a cable or do you want the AP's to talk to G4100 via the WLAN?
If its 2nd, I believe that is not possible ie the G4100 does not support WDS.
If its the first you should be able to ping the AP's from G4100 as long as the physical cables are wired correctly and your AP's are on the subnet as the G4100.
Please double check IP's and wiring.
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Steve Thresher
@btcentralplus.com
| The AP's are wired to the router and are on the same subnet.
Router 192.168.2.1
AP 1 192.168.2.2
AP 2 192.168.2.3 etc.
I cannot ping the AP's at the moment which is why I was wondering if there was some kind of option/filter in the router that needed to be enabled. |
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dslpartner
join:2005-02-18 | You might need to register the AP in someway with the G4100 since it does checks on MAC address I believe.
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Anav
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Dartmouth, NS
2 edits | On page 147 of the UG it talks about mapping LAN devices.
THis will allow the G4100 to probe the APs as well as make them accessible on the WAN side of the router. (mac address is one of the variables)
The example on pag 149 talks about an AP and a managed switch behind the G4100 and on pag 150 an inside server.
THe syslog server section is where you itemize the LAN device probe reporting.
One of those RTFM questions! 
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dslpartner
join:2005-02-18
| said by Anav  :One of those RTFM questions! . So why didn't you say that before ? :P
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Anav
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Dartmouth, NS | Partly not understanding the question and partly due to my lack of photographic memory or putting a positive spin on it, my healthy appetite to kill brain cells by various activities, one of which is aging. |
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dslpartner
join:2005-02-18 | What is healthy with aging? |
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Steve Thresher
@co.uk
|  reply to Anav
Not really an RTFM question given that I'm trying to access the AP on the SAME subnet. I already stated that I don't have a problem with crossing subnets / port forwarding / whatever you want to call it. No point trying to access a device from the WAN if I can't see it on the LAN! |
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Anav
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Dartmouth, NS | Is there an on/off switch on the APs? |
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dslpartner
join:2005-02-18
| reply to Steve Thresher
Point is that, if a PC tries to connect to the G4100 it needs to insert username/password and it will have access for x time.
The AP can not supply the credentials, ie we must tell the G4100 that AP are allowed to run data on the subnet. Ie some sort of configuration might be needed. BUT I have never setup a G4100, so I might be far off, but these kind of cases has been mentioned before.
So is there an option to use tell the G4100 this?
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Anav
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Dartmouth, NS
| I think I might have said the APs are transparent. We can ask the G4100 to probe them to ensure they are operational and to keep ppl aware with syslog reports.
What besides providing AP service to customers does the poster wish the APs to do,, make hot chocoate?? |
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Riuski
join:2005-12-16
Alhambra, CA
| reply to Steve Thresher
Have you tried disabling Layer 2 Isolation on the G-4100v2? From my experience, L2I along with IPnP (or AnyIP) is usually the culprit when you're trying to setup a network with the G-4100v2 or VSG-1200v2. L2I is a great security feature to have, but you should turn it off until you make sure everything else in the network is working properly. IPnP is just something nice to have, but not necessary, since static IP issues affect very few people. |
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