papaskitch
join:2007-02-10
Woodbridge, ON
2 edits | reply to R0CKY
Re: Update on throttling issue...
It couldn't hurt to contact your MP and ask them where they stand on Net Neutrality. Make sure they know that this is an issue they need to have a position on when the next election comes along. |
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ftp1020
join:2007-01-30
Canada
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
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So much for the 'play nice with Bell' strategy. Now that Bell sees Teksavvy (et al) as an actual competitor, there will be no high road. There never is when profits come into the picture.
Strength in numbers, Rocky. If your independent ISP assocation was an afternoon coffee klatsch before, it needs to grow some teeth now. I'd suggest that the first legal route is that the ILEC has no right to discriminate other people's (and companies') net traffic. Another would be to buy a few shares of BCE and create commotions at shareholder's meetings, and make the teachers aware that they are buying into the receiving end of an open-ended (class-action?) lawsuit. |
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midnighter
join:2007-09-22
Etobicoke, ON
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Re: Update on throttling issue...
Every major technology that got released got monopolized by a few firms before the Government got involved to make it fair for the consumer. Without the Gov'ts help on this, Bell will not budge. We need to somehow make the Canadian govt care about their consumers. If the CRTC is not responsible for Bandwidth, then who is. Almost every Canadian citizen has internet now and I find it amazing that there isn't an entity that protects the avg. Canadian internet user. |
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koreyb
join:2005-01-08
Etobicoke, ON
 ·Primus Talkbroadband
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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I don't buy that it's just BT and P2P affected.... VoIP is also an issue, as I notice around the same time (4pm to 2am) my VoIP acts up..
This is a direct anti-competitive move. I've already filed complaints with the CRTC and Competition bureau.
The issue is, who you going to run to.. This basically has made EVERY provider in Ontario and Quebec Throttled!
SHAME ON Bell. My condo was to move to Expressvu and I'm thinking maybe I just might refuse access to them. (I don't watch much tv anyhow) |
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Gokuu
join:2001-08-27 | reply to R0CKY
What timing!
Gotta love the timing. Just as Bell comes out with throttling across the board, the CBC begins to move forward with P2P distribution.
Are you listening CRTC!?!? |
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Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | reply to koreyb
Re: Update on throttling issue...
They throttle everything (whole connection) if they detect BT/P2P. They're also apparently misdetecting other stuff and throttling based on that. Are you doing anything else with your connection when your VoIP acts up? |
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AMailer
Aaron DM
join:2004-04-03
1 edit | reply to GoogleFreak
If every one of their resellers 'put their foot down (if they dare)' don't they HAVE to do something - or they should for the good of themselves (since thats what they only care about) |
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newSymp
join:2003-11-06 | reply to R0CKY
i'd Actually love to see portions of the contracts etc
lets see what is going on, if we are going to be paying for something we should at least know what is affecting us |
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koreyb
join:2005-01-08
Etobicoke, ON
·Primus Talkbroadband
·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz  :They throttle everything (whole connection) if they detect BT/P2P. They're also apparently misdetecting other stuff and throttling based on that. Are you doing anything else with your connection when your VoIP acts up? Nope... I've even tried just having voip active with all computers off...
The VoIP thing is just to win back phone customers.
Everyone needs to file complaints with the governing bodies.. |
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GoogleFreak
join:2008-03-25
Etobicoke, ON | Don't go with Bell for phone service you can get Primus or Rogers. Heck with them! |
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diskace
Ebox Senior
Premium,VIP
join:2002-02-21 | reply to AMailer
Electronic Box and Teksavvy is going to work on this case actively.
Best regards, Jean-Philippe.
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Electronic Box Inc. |
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koreyb
join:2005-01-08
Etobicoke, ON | reply to GoogleFreak
Rogers is just as bad as Bell my friend... I think Bell and rogers both need to be boycotted.. Bell and Rogers basically operate the same... Take each others lead on everything. |
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eots
join:2003-02-04 | reply to AMailer
If someone starts a class action suit against Bell for this action count me in! This is exactly why most Teksavvy customers left Bell in the first place! |
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qweloo
join:2007-10-04
h3p 2c4
·Bell Sympatico
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said by aver :Gotta love that we all leave Bell to send a message and now they screw us again.. Maybe it is time to send them another message since they seem not to understand.
Cancelling TV service now and looking for an alternative to cancel Bell phone service as well (if anybody has a good local phone company please do recommend).
I hope TSI (and other 3rd party ISP) will fight this and that its customers will stand behind it. If TSI and us dont fight this now, we may never see the days of unhindered internet service again.
And to the people saying that they wont migrate to TSI because of this .... do you really think staying with Bell/Rogers/Videotron/Telus is going to help you get unhindered internet service ? TSI not only gives better and more honest service but is willing to fight for what it believes in ie non throttled and unhindered internet service. I will support them in their fight.
Tell us if we need to get an official petition going or anything of the kind. |
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booooo_bell
@accelio.com | reply to R0CKY
My VPN and VoIP have been flaky in Ottawa for a couple of weeks now. This is just ridiculous. |
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The Flash
You don't win friends with salad
Premium
join:2002-10-17
Toronto, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Execulink
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said by diskace :Electronic Box and Teksavvy is going to work on this case actively. Best regards, Jean-Philippe. Joint Forces Anti-Throttle Super Heroes! |
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JayMan
Whoot
Premium
join:2002-06-05
Earth | reply to R0CKY
Ok so we need to make plans. We need a Anti-Bell Website. We need the contact info for MP's MPP's, CEO's VP's etc.. posted on it. Maybe makeup a email account that you can send one email too and it gets sent to them all. |
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daboom
join:2001-12-16
Oshawa, ON
·Primus Talkbroadband
1 edit | reply to The Flash
This is nut's I am game to go anti Bell wait!! I already am LOL
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iconfat
join:2005-04-06
Toronto
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Well, the problem is Bell is now affecting the terms of service that other companies have with their customers.
I don't know the specifics of the contract where third party ISPs lease the lines from Bell, but I cannot see a clause stating Bell is able manage what data and how much data travels through those lines. That in itself is anticompetetive.
I will now complete my letter to the competetion bureau on this case. Here is the link to that post. »Generic Letter to Competition Bureau .. re: Bell throttling
I suggest everyone does this as Bell is way offside by affecting thrid party ISP's and action will be taken. |
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