jyeung
inspiration reality
Premium
join:2004-03-30
North York, ON | reply to Willy_ph
Re: Update on throttling issue...
Also..not to be picky, but use "whose" instead of "who's".
- Jason |
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alec
join:2007-12-24
Ottawa, ON | "who is" much more grammar correct |
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Willy_ph
join:2002-02-01
Port Hope, ON | I noticed only one instance where whose may have been the preferred word. Each and every other "who" or "who's" contract was the appropriate word for the context in which it was used.
Too late. I'm not reprinting 10 copies of each letter. |
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cables
join:2007-12-20
Vancouver, BC
| reply to R0CKY
said by R0CKY  :... An easy analogy would be a landlord, who is managing an apartment, gives himself a key to come in and out as he pleases and on top of that decide which tenants friends they let in! I'm not sure about you, but I'm fairly certain, one; the tenant would call the police, but two; you'd land up with a very big black-eye! ************************************************************************** Rocky wow, that sounds a lot like living in the basement of a 'vancouver special', with your landlord living in the main floor. |
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PlatooN
join:2007-02-13
Kitchener, ON | reply to R0CKY
This is total crap. Though now I have a good answer for a few clients of mine as to why their secured remote is so slow. Time to call a few clients who are lawyers and make a few inquires. |
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gregca
join:2008-03-26
Kettleby, ON
| reply to TobiasFunke
said by TobiasFunke :Honestly, I think the only way to effectively send Bell a message is to establish a truly independent ISP by whatever means possible. Do you have any more thoughts on this? I've been discussing the concept of a co-op or user ISP. Obviously a wired network isn't very feasible, but what about a wireless network - maybe based on WiMAX? |
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GKC
join:2008-03-07
Toronto, ON
| reply to alec
said by alec :"who is" much more grammar correct And to be more grammaticially correct:
The word whose is a possessive pronoun. Unlike possessive nouns, most possessive pronouns do not use apostrophes.
Example: Whose socks are in the chili?
The word who's is a contraction. It stands for who is or who has.
Example: Please see who's at the door. |
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varius
join:2003-02-22
Montreal, QC
1 edit | reply to R0CKY
What is really missing is the network data from Bell...
If they really have to set the throttling to "heavy" because everything is crumbling, then just admit you have to set the thing more dynamically and update your network, but, please, sound more real. Make us believe and we will understand and even help!
If the network is not that close to crash and the plan is to control content delivery, specifically live TV, movies, audio, a thing Bell would like to do for sure, P2P is the great ennemy. Forget all the morality of it, legal not legal downloads, whatever, they cannot be cops, morally, and legally...And even real cops don't care...The fact is people are downloading whatever they want right now and they are barely able to pay, even if they want, to have the same "quality of service" as a fast P2P download...But Bell might be playing cops, arresting us digitally, to gain finacially, pretending P2P is bad (the diversion).
That could blow. It's a near monopoly given permission to gain another monopoly, if we let it go. It's selling the line and the content passing in it. A century ago, many workers had to buy food at their employer's market and pay them rent. They had the bread, now they want the butter from us.
Maybe in court we will see data.
Varius |
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jdjames
@teksavvy.com
| reply to R0CKY
sorry if this has already been seen, but posting anyway 
»www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/26···ty_isps/ |
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aaannon
@teksavvy.com
| reply to R0CKY
First when I joined TSI I was told that TSI won't throttle the line. My idea was TSI just rent the infrastructure or copper wire. Now it turns out that it's not what it is.
The throttling has nothing to do with me because I'm a newsgroup guy. I don't do any P2P at all (slow). I still don't feel easy enough because Bell still controlling my data.
I guess the only difference right now between Bell and TSI is price and cap. Nothing else. |
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NBomb
join:2007-01-23
Etobicoke, ON
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
| said by aaannon :
I guess the only difference right now between Bell and TSI is price and cap. Nothing else. Naw man, you won't find better service anywhere this side of a posh hotel. Come for the connection, stay for the service! |
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GKC
join:2008-03-07
Toronto, ON
| The CRTC must never allow deregulation of Bell Canada for as long as Bell exists. The CRTC should implement full and complete regulation of Bell Canada, in light of Bell Canada's most recent sneaky, under-handedness to throttle third-party wholesalers and their customers.
The CRTC deregulated certains aspects of Bell Canada August 2007 giving Bell too much freedom in the playground. The CRTC must over-rule their previous decision to include full and complete regulation of Bell Canada. |
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anti_trust
@videotron.ca
| reply to R0CKY
Bell Doc to the CRTC
In a Bell submittal to the CRTC in regards to the "possibility that it might institute throttling and thereby directly affect their services."
»www.crtc.gc.ca/public/8740/2003/···1201.doc
5. At paragraph 2, MNSi alleges that implementation of tunnel switching will affect the achievable throughput depending on the number of end-users associated with a particular tunnel switch. In response, the Company notes that the Peak Information Rate (PIR) associated with PVCs will be eliminated when an ISP is converted to the tunnel switching architecture. In this manner, the throughput will be determined by the customer's user network interface (UNI) access circuit capacity rather than the Peak Information Rate (PIR) setting. Of course, Bell Canada reserves the right to implement a PIR rate in cases of troubleshooting or to protect the network infrastructure from congestion resulting from malfunctioning or mis-configured equipment or malicious hacking.
M. Geist responds:
»www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2787/125/
The new throttling system has nothing to do with troubleshooting, malfunctioning equipment, or malicious hacking, but rather involves speed limits for a particular class of traffic. Moreover, for months Bell has been installing "deep packet inspection" capabilities into its network. Sources advise that the company was regularly asked about its intentions and that it consistently assured ISPs that throttling would not apply to wholesale services.
Keep your letters going to Industry canada and the CRTC |
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chronoss2008
@teksavvy.com
| reply to R0CKY
Re: reasons to get people off BELL ANYWAYS
A) better techsupport
B) every peep you get signed up give em your ID and name and you get 1$/month
C) in time i know rocky and the other 3rd party ISPS will and are building there own networks.
D) they offer phone service in my area so i calculated what me leaving bell has cost BELL
1160$ /month
or 13,920$
17 people to teksavvy
including myself
and me dropping everything bell as well as my father. |
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matradley
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Ontario
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| I will be leaving Bell as soon as my contract is up in June - then it is off to Teksavvy. Luckily, I get to start doing the cancellation process in May (30 days prior to the end of contract) so that I can leave Bell without a charge. |
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Last Parade
One of the Brightest Stars
join:2002-10-07
Port Colborne, ON
| said by matradley :I will be leaving Bell as soon as my contract is up in June - then it is off to Teksavvy. Luckily, I get to start doing the cancellation process in May (30 days prior to the end of contract) so that I can leave Bell without a charge. Right, you're leaving Bell for Bell. They're still making $21.50/month off you. |
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whyohwhy
@bell.ca
| reply to chronoss2008
said by chronoss2008 :
A) better techsupport
B) every peep you get signed up give em your ID and name and you get 1$/month
C) in time i know rocky and the other 3rd party ISPS will and are building there own networks.
D) they offer phone service in my area so i calculated what me leaving bell has cost BELL
1160$ /month
or 13,920$
17 people to teksavvy
including myself
and me dropping everything bell as well as my father.
Why are you dropping your father? |
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chrish
join:2007-02-19
Ottawa, ON | reply to R0CKY
Re: Update on throttling issue...
Look like Rocky made it to the register (theregister.com) |
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antebell
@teksavvy.com
|  reply to GoogleFreak
Thanks Rocky, for the update, and thanks for the earlier advice on dsl modems...I have a lovely $20 used 2wire here that works better than my $60 ovislink ever did, even when new.
I've been a big fan & customer of teksavvy for over a year now, but was only able to get the actual 5M service from you guys at the end of Feb after I moved from a lousy area. So I noticed a big jump in download speeds 4 weeks ago, and couldn't understand why recent downloads started fast, and then slowed to a crawl, similar to the way my old rogers account behaved. Until I read Prof. Geist's blog last night about this issue, I'd been blaming the seeds/leechers, thinking it was fast only at first while I was catching up to what was available...
This has got to be the basis of a class-action suit I think, against Bell AND Rogers, with expert, well-respected companies like teksavvy in the lead. It is anti-competitive, false advertising (they advertise 5M; actively ensure we don't get it), etc. Yes, it might take a year, two years, or more, but leaving it to the pro-business lawmakers in Canada will ensure that better laws preventing throttling never get passed.
Sorry corporate-liars: I download-and-compile a fair amount because I rebuild computers destined for the landfill, and give them to the poor...so that means a lot of LEGAL downloading of Linux and FOSS applications.
Perhaps we should be looking at mesh-type central nodes for Internet and asterisk-based phone services?
I'm with you, Rocky!!!
Loyal customer
P.S. When I moved, Bell almost prevented me from taking my Teksavvy account with me; before I moved I was proud NOT to have any Bell account and used a dry-loop, for phone service through an asterisk-based provider. Now I had to get a Bell landline phone in order to enable a wet-loop dsl service, as Bell tried to tell me and Teksavvy that dsl simply wasn't available here in a well-established Toronto neighbourhood. |
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cacruden
join:2008-03-18
Toronto, ON | reply to R0CKY
If I upgrade to the ADSL ($99/month) line and then Bell has to remove the shaping from the lines - I wonder if I can sue them since the only reason I would get it is to solve a problem they created (including installation cost of course). |
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